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Nov 6, 2009
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Nov 6, 2009
There’s a group of hardcore Brett Favre followers and they believe that #4 can do no wrong. There’s a group of Packers fans who were sick and tired of Favre’s antics and they couldn’t wait until he was gone. Then, there’s the rest. Whichever category you fall into, you seem to look for validation on an almost daily basis. Statistically, Rodgers is the better QB. If you’re talking wins and losses, Favre has been on the better teams. If you’re angry with Ted Thompson and/or Mike McCarthy, then the two games versus the Vikings were your revenge filled epiphanies. The saga, drama, finger pointing will go on for generations it now seems.
Yesterday, Jason Whitlock, of Fox Sports, wrote a column in which he called Brett Favre the MVP of the season this year and Ted Thompson an moron. Those of you in the “Favre is the best ever” camp emailed me the link to this article numerous times yesterday and today. By the way, you can stop now, I’ve read it.
The point is, it’s over. Favre has moved on, he’s extracted his revenge on Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy with the Vikings beating the Packers twice this season and now it’s on with the second half of 2009. So what is it you want, to sway the nation in to your thought process? Were you hoping that Ted Thompson would be fired on the spot or that he’d call a press conference to say, “Gee, I was wrong and you were right, forgive me”. Come on!
For Packers fans, the focus should be on the team and where do they go from here. A dangerous, yet winnable, trap game awaits them in Tampa this weekend. It appears that the offensive line will be bolstered with the return of Tauscher and Clifton. We all know that if Rodgers has the time to throw he’s one of the best quarterbacks in the league. Rodgers is a tremendous fantasy QB but now he’s got to consistently win and that’s a total team effort as any real football fan knows. Back to Chad and Mark, with their return maybe the run game gets into gear as well. On the horizon is the return of Jermichael Finley and Jordy Nelson, both of whom were integral weapons for Rodgers. We can’t forget about Korey Hall and the desperately needed presence he brings to special teams. Defensively speaking, the finger-pointing has been addressed and now we’ll see, after 7 games, if this unit begins to “get it”. Barnett’s playing better and better each week but I’m hoping that the progression of A.J. Hawk continues and it’s not a one week wonder. Clay Matthews, the only player with an abundance of 3-4 experience has certainly shined in this defense but it all starts up front. Cullen Jenkens and Aaron Kampman have to progress. They’re both professionals and they have to continue to get better. Funny how no one was complaining, quite the opposite actually, when they were trouncing teams in the pre-season and after the Chicago game but I digress. This all leads me to the penalties, ahhh the penalties. Mike McCarthy said this week that specific individuals have been spoken to and the stupid penalties will not be tolerated, as if they were before. I think the intense media and fan scrutiny has finally sunken in to many heads that giving your opponent yardage, a lot of yardage, really does hurt your chances to win if you’re not an elite team.
Here’s the question that’s bouncing around the rounded innards of my cranium; Are the Packers the bad team that showed up in the first half of last week’s game against the Vikings or are they the darn good football team that came back and made it a game in the second half? If the Packers play a penalty minimum game and they give Rodgers time and they hold their opponent to around 275-300 yards of total offense, they’re a very good team. It’s the self inflicted issues that this undisciplined bunch can’t seem to overcome. It’s as if they’re afraid of success. I will say this, the media scrutiny and pressure of Favre has passed. There’s nothing on the horizon now but decent football teams and rivalries. Unless fate produces “Favreageddon 3; The Post-Season”, the purple clouds have lifted and now it’s time to move on.

Wednesday, Nov 11 at 10:11 PM Bill Rudersdorf wrote ...
Michael's Gone, Thank God!
31975564 Flag for moderationWednesday, Nov 11 at 10:09 PM Bill Rudersdorf wrote ...
Can we get a real writer/sportscaster in Wisconsin? Send this bandwagon, Shermanlovin' Favre hater back where he came from.
31975489 Flag for moderationWednesday, Nov 11 at 9:47 AM THE BIG EUNUCH wrote ...
How 'bout this for halftime entertainment during the Dallas game: a giant "daisy chain" with corporate lackey Favre-bashers Michaels-Laravee-on the receiving end of Terrible Ted and Fats McCarthy's "stuff", done to the tune of Donna Summers' "Love to Love You, Baby"!
31935866 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 9 at 3:07 PM Jenny wrote ...
Love you Unit but I'll be ready to move on I think once Thompson and McCarthy are GONE! Purge NOW!
31845946 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 9 at 1:09 PM Derek Lofland wrote ...
I'll move on when the Packers move on without Thompson and McCarthy. Until then I am enjoying every minute of this blowing up in their face.
31838471 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 9 at 1:03 PM Troy wrote ...
A fan is a fan.Rodgers to some can do no wrong,just like Favre can do no wrong.Its over and done with.Would I still like Favre as a Packer,YES,but he isn't.The decision was made and now people have to live with it,good or bad.Who knows if Favre was still here,what would the record be,but I do know this,right now the Pack is 4-4 and isn't looking good.Better get this fixed,or 500 will be the best this club will see.Right now,everybody on this team needs to step it up.
31838126 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 9 at 12:44 PM bob wrote ...
after the game in Tampa maybe you will agree the packers are a bust.
31836954 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 8 at 3:47 PM WAGNER wrote ...
I fail to see why we are revisiting the Farve/thompson issue. Brett wanted to be on a veteran team and he has what he wants. He is in the last years of his football life & wants to win a super bowl. I cannot blame him. The packers were between a rock & a hard spot. Brett says for a few years, then retires & Aaron moves on they are left w/o a qb. IT is foolish for fans to think the youngest team would compete for a SB. The Packers r 2-3 years away from a SB like it or not.
31796704 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 8 at 2:09 AM John wrote ...
Bill you are such a loud mouth BS'er Why would anyone want to be a "SPORTS GUY" !!! This article is crazy !!!
31774599 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 9:03 PM CL wrote ...
One other comment on Rodgers...the way the Packers are treating him is a bit odd to me. They sign this big contract to keep him long-term last year but, didn't go out and get one single proven O-lineman to protect him. Wouldn't you think that with the money the Packers have they would make every effort to find the best line? Grant and Rodgers make too much money to get killed every play. Peyton Manning is the best player in the league largely because he's always standing up.
31766304 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 8:59 PM CL wrote ...
I think the issue with Favre waffling and saying that he initially retired because he "couldn't commit" was because he couldn't commit to Thompson's philosophy of building through the draft and keeping money in the Packer's pocket. Favre wanted a veteran team (MINN) and Thompson wanted to do it his way. Favre wanted one more shot and Thompson is thinking longer-term. Time will tell.
31766174 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 6:28 PM travis roste wrote ...
to say that favre wouldnt have won any more games from the pack is stupid. of course he would have. he would have won the two vikings games because the vikes would still be stuck with tavaris " i like to throw at peoples feet" jackson. two more wins for the pack. ted thompson is an idiot.
31761484 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 5:50 PM Dawnie B wrote ...
As a Favre fan I could care less what anyone thinks of him and his actions. My guess is GB wants and needs this negative talk between the pro and against Favre to continue, how else would a 4-3 team get that much media attention and or air time.
31760436 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 4:43 PM Jim Henderson wrote ...
Hey Rochelle... what would a woman know about football? Get back in the kitchen and bake my cookies!
31758426 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 4:36 PM itbetrue wrote ...
I don't agree with you at all. Yeah Brett may be running for his life too if he played for the Pack, but at least he knows when to get rid of it when it really counts!
31758221 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 12:52 PM Rochelle wrote ...
The Favre Fanatics are the true idiots. They use a combination of lies, half truths and gloss over anything bad their idol does. You are truly pathetic. The Packers did the right thing. Period. As I noted in another blog - Favre could commit murder and some of you would defend him. If he were with the Packers right now their record would not be any different. Maybe a couple more losses. Favre Fanatics = idiots.
31750514 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 11:55 AM Idiots wrote ...
All of you Brett favre hater idiots out there need to just admitt it, that because of TT the Packers aren't even going to make it to the playoffs this year, its the facts. TT pushed Brett out, now is left with an ok quarterback who is hurt, and an O line that couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat. Just admitt that Brett Favre was the best thing that ever happened to the Packers. I'm not saying Brett was the only one who did something in Green Bay, but he was the play maker. Wake Up!
31748056 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 10:11 AM Ron wrote ...
Thompson is a terrible person--I am ashamed of him. Too bad his EGO is so huge he doesn't realize the damage he has done to the packers for years to come. He is a total waste and should go now--but I don't think our current President has the "fortitute to fire him--or the brains.
31744271 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 9:35 AM SchenySchen wrote ...
Has it occurred to anyone that Favre knew Minnesota was a better team and wanted to play there all along? Longwell has been feeding him info about the viqueens for 4 years...both parties are at fault here not just Favre and not just TT/MM.
31743086 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 3:02 AM Bob wrote ...
After Favre is retired for good and in the HOF I have a feeling then we will hear the whole story about what a jag bag Thompson really was and his motivation to stick it to him. You guys who are trying to talk like Favre wasn't that good are morons, he's the best QB to play the game.
31737114 Flag for moderationSaturday, Nov 7 at 2:53 AM BrettWho? wrote ...
Favre? who cares...the onion just summed him up; just another 'me only' player. I'll take any 'very good' system qb that can bring multi super bowls any day (see Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, Tom Brady) over individual statistics qb's of the Dan Marino (0 sb wins), doug williams, and favre (1 SB win each). SB Team wins are what counts - I have pride in my team. Individual stats are for loser franchises no history - so the fans gotta dig for something.
31736994 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 11:45 PM Frank V. wrote ...
MM and his boyfriend TT need to go they are worthless and have no business being anywhere around the NFL. It is so good to see Favre playing great I hope all the haters take a good look at him and see what a great player he is.
31733051 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 11:37 PM Frank V. wrote ...
Well its a little hard to let go of Favre when you keep bringing him up.
31732666 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 9:53 PM Jim wrote ...
Well MM and TT-"The Train has left the Station"....4 SURE-all the way to Minnesota and the Head Engineer is wearing a #4 Purple FB Jersey!!!!!!!!
31729861 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 6:27 PM gbfan wrote ...
Hey, NJ Rob, what are you smoking? That is NOT how it went down...they set this whole thing up after accepting his retirement and naming AR the QB? As Yoda would say : "Makes sense not". So let me try to piece your thoughts together...even if that is the case then he turned around and actually said that he wanted to come back AFTER he refused their offer from a month earlier?.. you only boost my argument but, hey, thank you....
31722764 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 6:04 PM NJ Rob wrote ...
Hey GBFan,that's not how it went down. TT & MM set up that whole deal by calling Brett and pleading with him to come back when they knew he wasn't ready. They told him they would pick him up, fly him back to GB in style and have a big presser and party. In the heat of their manipulation of his honest emotions that coerced him to unretire. The when he came back to his senses, he got back to them and said "no thanks." Mission accomplished! They set him up. And that wasn't the only time.
31721921 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 5:52 PM gbfan wrote ...
And for all of the BF fans who think that he is so great, the 96 Packers are the only NFL team to end the year and win the SB with the #1 rated offense and the #1 rated defense in the same year. He did NOT win it on his own.....more than a few names come to mind...
31721391 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 5:19 PM gbfan wrote ...
People, people..BF retired the first time for one simple reason and one reason only..to get to where he is right now and make TT look bad at the same time - I am not a TT apologist nor a fan of his overall. Let's remember , seconds before MM and TT were to fly down and pick BF up for his triumphant return, BF called them and said for the umpteenth time " aw, shucks, I've changed my f-ing mind once again and will stay retired". MM and TT were just sick of his BS. As a huge former BF fan, so was I
31719879 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 4:35 PM Tom wrote ...
Well said, Pirate Tim. No Packer fan in their right mind can say Favre isn't good or whatever, but his childlike behavior on the same level of TT and MM is despicable. I'm tired of all 3 of them. When are people gonna wake up and realize that this team survived 70 years without Favre and got 11 more championships than they did with him. It's a team effort, 1 man does not make a team. Like Favre if you want, but stand by your team at the end of the day. If people don't want to, we don't need em.
31717546 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 4:27 PM FarveFan wrote ...
You discredit yourself and your argument when you say Farve has been on the better teams. With this team he was 13-3 and Rodgers was 6-10. You move on. I will wait til Ted and Mc Carthy are but distant memories. Til then I will oppose their every move.
31716994 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 4:25 PM mike10001 wrote ...
As far as I can tell people are mad Favre retired and use that an excuse to hate him. A real Packer Fan knows Forrest Greg retired 4 times that time as a Cowboy with Cowboy super bowl ring he was welcomed back. Paul Hoerning retired 5 times yet the packers still took him back Good Grief... Go Favre !! show TT the door.
31716919 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 3:41 PM IPittyThePack wrote ...
FIRE TED THOMPSON NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31714096 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 3:30 PM Bob wrote ...
Sychopahancy at its best, these hacks need to keep churning this type of writing out to keep a Packer fan base in tact. I was a proud packer fan and began questioning the GM when they spent their #1 draft picks on a QB and Justin Harrell. All of this psycho analyzing of Favre calling him spoiled and egocentric is pretty sad. The bottom line is that he didn't feel welcom in GB and I don't blame him, with Ted Thompson running the show.
31713226 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 3:17 PM Pirate Tim wrote ...
I've been a Packer fan all my life 50yrs it sadens me to see and hear that people are no longer going to watch the packers because of a child like qb and stubburn gm. Have you forgot the 70's 80's and half of the 90's. United we stand divide we fall we are the greatest fans in the world stand by YOUR team
31712264 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 3:12 PM Sean wrote ...
Favre took the same team to the NFC Championship game not even two years ago. The statement about Brett playing with Hall of Famers is true! What great teams has Favre played for? 1996 Packers where good but there was only one Hall of Fame player he played with ..Reggie White and no offensive Hall of Famers. Now take other QB's like: Manning, Brady, Marino, Montana, Bradshaw, ect... All of them have had multiple Hall of Fame recievers, runningbacks, offensive lineman...That make Favre the best!
31712019 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 2:47 PM Da Truf wrote ...
You make a good point, Unit. Rodgers is a great FANTASY QB. Karen is so concerned with his stats that he's willing to take drive killing sacks instead of throwing the ball away. If you do a statistical analysis of past NFL seasons, you will find that sacks have a more adverse affect on offenses than interceptions do. Rodgers is not an on-field leader like Brett was. Get off of his nuts, Unit, and come back to Brett's where you belong!!!
31710369 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 2:41 PM Ben wrote ...
It takes an Ex Packer to make the Viqueens good. go figure.
31710029 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 2:22 PM PJN wrote ...
Lets get back to reality. Favre is one of the best and he's gone! Rodgers is only in his second year! He will be great. Just needs time to learn and grow. TT & MM will not give him the time or the knowledge he needs to grow. The option to dump TT after 4yrs is there for a reason,USE IT!
31708676 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 2:18 PM Sonny Crockett wrote ...
When Favre retires and the Three Stooges (Thompson, Murphy and McCarthy) are gone, I'll root for the Packers again. They treated Favre like crap at the end. From wantin' him to hold a clipboard for a rookie after all he did for the franchise, from tryin' to bribe him 20 mil. to walk away and leakin' to the media Favre was tamperin' with the Vikings with a cell phone he was never issued! The Stooges made their bed and now the Packers fans can lie in it. Sonny Crockett
31708329 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 2:00 PM Favre 4 ever wrote ...
You still don't get it. You're one of the Favre haters that were trying to push him out the door years ago. Now that Mr. Rodgers can't win a game of any importance, you bring up his QB rating. If Mr. Rodgers would just throw the ball (in less than 15 seconds waiting for someone to be open by 10 yards) they could be 6-1. Switch QB's in the Viking's games and the pack wins both. I'll take a few more interceptions to accomplish the goal anytime (win the game for those still looking at the QB stats)
31707139 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 1:46 PM Ryan V wrote ...
I'm just saying that this Packer football team needs veteran leadership (Favre) not a stats queen (Rodgers). Favre has that unique leadership to elevate everyones play. I'm not saying that he could make Barbre block people, but he would get rid of the damn ball! Unit sells Favre short by saying he "played on better teams". How many HOF WR's has #4 had?
31706239 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 1:25 PM Jim Henderson wrote ...
To say Favre is no different than Lohan or Spears is just plain irresponsible and stupid. Hell hath no fury like a Favre hater. When Brett emotionally accepts his HOF placement, I hope he mentions you by name as one of the biggest a-holes he ever heard cheer for him when he worked for GB. And if you claim you weren't cheering for him, it only proves Brett was right about you.
31704824 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 12:28 PM Packer Fred wrote ...
Ryan V....You don't get football and you're EXACLTY what the Unit's talkking about. YES, Favre was/is on better teams. TEAM being the key word. God, what don't you get!
31700714 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 12:26 PM Jeff wrote ...
Thompson & McCarthy both need to go. Not because of the Brett Favre saga, that was the right move. They need to go because TT is not a very good GM and MM is not a good enough coach.
31700564 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 12:23 PM Adam wrote ...
I'm not gonna argue regarding Ted Thompson and Favre v. Rodgers, i am focused on the other 52 guys on the roster and how Ted has failed in that area, that is the key reason he should be fired.
31700351 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 12:10 PM Tim wrote ...
Did you forget that Thompson has also not done a thing to protect his "franchise player"? Rodgers is the future of this football team huh? Then maybe you want to shop the free agency a little more to help your quarterback that you LOVE so dearly! He won't be the future when he spends most of his time on the ground!
31699344 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 12:03 PM Armen wrote ...
"He skipped the offseason conditioning program and training camp and still signed for $12.5 million, the starting position and the opportunity to embarrass Packers general manager Ted Thompson. Hell hath no fury like a scorned diva quarterback. Favre is spoiled, petulant, narcissistic and irresponsible. He's no different from Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan. Wealth and fame ruined Favre at a young age, and now we're fascinated by the flaws they created." - Jason Whitlock
31698866 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 11:53 AM Ryan V wrote ...
"Favre was on better teams...?" Seriously Micheals? Doesn't he get any credit for that? You can ride on TT's horse out of town too...
31698206 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 11:23 AM steve Fox wrote ...
Tampa - "a trap game"? Yikes. I think you'd have to be a pretty crappy team to lose to the Bucs this year.
31696236 Flag for moderationFriday, Nov 6 at 11:11 AM RightOn wrote ...
Jason Whitlock is a moron. A few years ago he said Favre was overrated and Reggie White is the only reason he has a Super Bowl ring. Let's see what he has to say in January. Keep up the good work Bill.
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