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Brett Will Be Back in 2010By Dan O'DonnellIf only to get his free oil change!
One has to admire Jim Cooper's dedication to his Vikings--those oil changes can run up to $35! Only a true fan just gives them away, even to Brett Favre. |
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Tuesday, Feb 16 at 1:15 PM JB89 wrote ...
You're right, Mark, he did learn from the best. The Pack has a pretty good coaching staff. Remember, your egotistical boyfriend favre wouldn't mentor Rodgers. It wasn't part of his job. Translation 1. He's too good to be bothered with helping to improve the team for the future or 2. He was already scared that AR would take over his position. You decide.
37692034 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 5:03 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark - not only was Rodgers #12 - the steal of the 2005 draft at #24. He is the best player in the entire NFL from the 2005 draft. #1 - and there is not even a close 2nd.
37644474 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 2:58 PM Mark wrote ...
A-rod, steal of the draft. Wow, good one. At least he learned from the best....can't beat that.
37636586 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 10:56 AM Steve wrote ...
Mark - the Packers are more than glad to move forward with Rodgers #12 - he was the steal of the 2005 draft, and his 1st two seasons as a starter have proven to KNOWLEDGEABLE football fans all over the NFL. that this guy is good, better than good. Rodgers does not need fair weather old #4 groupees like you. he has real fans, Packer fans and NFL fans who OPEN their eyes, not just come on here and express - BLINDED OPINIONS, because of your life-long IDOL>
37621509 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 10:08 AM Mark wrote ...
Of course most of the int's came in the losses. His overall playoff stats are not that bad. The only 2 playoff losses I truly hold him accoutable for are this year and the Giants. And really the Giants game should have been won before that pass took place if their coaching had been better. Lack of adustments to Burress cost them that game more that 1 bad pass. The bad game against St Louis, they were completely over matched and would have lost anyway. Go ahead with Rodgers. U can have him
37618774 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 9:41 AM Steve wrote ...
Mark - my final example of OLD #4's failures - miserable failures in the playoffs. Joe Montana in 23 playoff games - 45 TD passes and 21 Picks - and 4 Superbowl Titles. Favre in 24 playoff games - 44 TD passes and 30 Picks - and 1 Superbowl Title. Problem for old #4 - 25 of his Interceptions came in 11 disasterous losses.
37617421 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 9:23 AM Steve wrote ...
4th Quarter comebacks = Old #4 did OK. Marino 36 - Unitas 36 - Elway 35 - Manning 35 - Montana 31 - Tarkenton 30 - Favre 30 // Game Winning Drives - Marino 51 - Elway 47 - Manning 44 - Favre 44. See I am fair - old #4 was a great regular season QB, and a big-time choker in the playoffs after one Superbowl Title.
37616582 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 9:18 AM Anonymous wrote ...
Mark - old #4 was a GREAT regular season QB, with way too many epic fails in the playoffs. Old #4's 497 TD passes = #1 - but 317 Picks also #1 and = too many losses. 44 Career Playoff Td's = 2nd best behind Montana, 30 playoff PICKS = too many season ending DISASTERS.
37616361 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 8:15 AM Mark wrote ...
Steve, just as I said, you are picking and choosing Longwell's stats. Why are 2008 and 2009 the only ones that are important? Just because they are recent? I have said all along that Favre's pass was his mistake and his fault. I never said it wasn't. What I am saying is that overall Favre is a winner. You are the one just picking and choosing stats to fit your theory. You never look at his number of TD passes, wins, 4th qtr comebacks, etc. That shows me you cannot give a fair argument.
37613851 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 15 at 8:11 AM Mark wrote ...
JB, so what if that happens? Who cares? If the Vikings or anyone else out there doesn't like it, then don't sign him. Why is that so hard to understand? If you don't like the games, why deal with it? Go with someone else then. I haven't heard anyone on the Vikings complain about it. Only Packer fans for some odd reason.
37613734 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 5:29 PM JB89 wrote ...
local high schoolers. August-Chillie picks favre up from the airport. He shows up to training camp 3 weeks late. Queens go 10-6 splitting with the Pack. January-Woodson gets a pick 6 off good old favre to win the NFC Championship game for the Pack!! All favre had to do was take a knee, but he wanted to score again to stick it to TT!! GO PACK!!!
37596601 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 5:26 PM JB89 wrote ...
Mark, I thought you were a Packer fan, yet you say "typical Packer fan." Which side of your mouth are you talking about now? You keep making predictions that you "know" will happen. That takes intelligence. I guarantee you won't show up around here when the AR leads the Pack to the Super Bowl. I'll make a prediction for you. March-favre retires. May-John Clayton receives text that favre may return. June-favre decides he will stay retired. July-more rumors of Favres return and he's throwing with
37596532 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 4:03 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark my source is - pro football referance.com. You can study all of old #4's Blunders right there. Just remember this fact, no brain-less interception = Longwell field goal, and you HERO would have been headed to da Superbowl. SHOT HIMSELF IN THE FOOT AGAIN!!!!!!!!
37594312 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 4:00 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark - In 2008 and 2009 - Ryan Longwell attempted 8 field goals from 50 yards or more, can you follow this. Longwell made all 8 field goals attempted from 50 yards or longer. Here is the tricky part now Mark, that means Longwell is - 8 for 8 - from 50 yards or more since 2008, Number 1 in the NFL. Do you understand. If you life-long IDOL had not tossed another PRETTY INTERCEPTION, Longwell kicks and makes from aroung 52 yards and the ppurple Queens head to the Superbowl. So Simple Mark.
37594211 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 1:34 PM Mark wrote ...
By the way, Longwell is 22-36 in 50 kicks. Not sure where you are picking and choosing your stats. Typical Packer fans. They like to pick stats that fill their thinking. Of course Brett has lots of playoff stats both good and bad. He's played in a ton of playoff games. Duhhhh. I could play this stat game forever. Question: Which QB in the NFL hangs onto the ball forever and ever and ever because he's afraid to make a risky throw and will NEVER win a SB because of that mentality?
37589614 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 11:51 AM JB89 wrote ...
Too bad, Mark, that we'll never know if Longwell would have made that field goal thanks to your man crush, favre. For somebody that likes to call Rodgers a "stat" quarterback, you sure like to throw favre stats out there. Considering that he only has 1 Super Bowl victory in his 19 years in the NFL, by YOUR standards, he is a "stat" quarterback. As long as you're in the mood for stats, don't forget that he holds the record for playoff losses as a starting quarterback, but he's not close on wins.
37585893 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 9:25 AM Steve wrote ...
Who is the - IDIOT - Mark. You or old #4. I think you both are perfect IDIOTS. The "INTERCEPTION MACHINE" , and his #1 groupeee, Mark Farrve.
37580877 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 9:23 AM Steve wrote ...
Mark my little boy, Longwell was - 8 for 8 - from 50 yards or more in his 8 attempts - 100% - including a career long 55 yarder in Chicago. I like those odds more than the odds of that - INTERCEPTION MACHINE - tossing the ball all over the place with the "SUPERBOWL" on the line. See Mark, FARRVE Choked, Longwell never had a chance to go - 9 for 9 - from 50 yards or more.
37580831 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 14 at 8:24 AM Mark wrote ...
I love arguing with idiots. Longwell automatically makes a 56 yard FG. You are funny. By the way, how many playoff TD's does he have and where does that stand in the record book, boy.
37579254 Flag for moderationSaturday, Feb 13 at 1:24 PM Steve wrote ...
NFL Playoff Interception Record is now at 30 - 30 - 30, not 20. Maybe old #4's most cherished RECORD. Most likely will never be challenged or broken.
37555344 Flag for moderationSaturday, Feb 13 at 1:21 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark - What football knowledge does one need to see what a playoff choker old #4 is. The Queens played hard for 58 minutes, and had a chance to win the game and go to the Superbowl. Then as he has done so many times before old #4 decides that the entire future of the Queens is on his shoulders - result - another playoff pick - his playoff INTERCEPTION NFL record is now at 20, and the Queens lose. HIS FAULT 100% - No Pick - Longwell makes the field goal, Queens win. Thank You Brent.
37555268 Flag for moderationSaturday, Feb 13 at 12:19 PM Mark wrote ...
There you go again. By blaming EVERY playoff loss on Favre it shows what an amateur you are. No football knowledge if you are serious.
37552754 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 5:16 PM Anonymous wrote ...
Mark - Rodgers = 1 career playoff game that ended with a loss. Favre = 11 disasterous playoff losses - Why - because the INTERCEPTION MACHINE has tossed an NFL record 30 picks in the playoffs. Mark you cannot compare a QB with one playoff game, with a QB that has 24 playoff games, and because of his mistakes, only one Superbowl Title. Mark find someone NEW to compare playoff performances - like Bradshaw, or Aikman, or Starr, or Montana, or Elway., or Brady. Those would be fair comparisons son
37519226 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 4:38 PM JB89 wrote ...
I probably should stop going back and forth with you on this. It may be illegal for me to be arguing like this with a minor!
37516886 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 4:37 PM JB89 wrote ...
Good one, Mark. You should know that I very RARELY buy a player jersey because I am an adult and have a favorite team, not player. The last jersey I purchased was Ray Nitschke. Before that it was Brett Favre. I don't own a Rodgers jersey. While I do think that was a facemask on Rodgers and there should have been a blow to the head penalty 2 plays earlier, I was VERY vocal that those no calls DID NOT cost the Packers the game. You see, unlike you, I have not lost touch with reality. Waaaaa? Wow.
37516827 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 12:25 PM Mark wrote ...
You guys are a hoot. I can picture you both with you #12 jerseys, first of all missing a WIDE OPEN Jennings to win a game and then holding onto the ball for forever and ever and ever and then fumbling it to give up a game winning TD and then seeing you cry to the papers and press that a fingernail was on my facemask and it should have been a penalty. Waaaaa waaaaa waaaaa.
37498906 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 10:02 AM Steve wrote ...
Mark in OLD #4 Jammies, in his basement, making believe he is old #4, as he leads the purple Queens to the Superbowl - and beyond!!!!! Wait a minute - Mark threw an INTERCEPTION. Oh NO - How could that happen.
37487646 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 9:41 AM JB89 wrote ...
Well, Mark, we have come full circle. That last post proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not and never were a Packer fan. So, once again, go back to your mom's basement, kiss your Brett Favre poster, and shut the hell up.
37486136 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 9:37 AM Steve wrote ...
Brent is the BEST, can't wait to see that "INTERCEPTION MACHINE" - Choke again next season. What a great Legacy,-- Playoff Choker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
37485764 Flag for moderationFriday, Feb 12 at 9:20 AM Mark wrote ...
Brett is the best. Can't wait for him to beat the Packers twice next year!!
37484522 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 11:12 PM Anonymous wrote ...
Brent is the best. Can't wait for him to toss another season ending INTERCEPTION, again next year. He will show you all, you wait and see.
37470486 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 10:29 PM Mark wrote ...
Brett is the best. Can't wait for him to beat the Packers twice next year!!
37468839 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 6:51 PM Ellen wrote ...
Bah. Just a variation of what he always says each year. Then as soon as training camp is over he feels "refreshed" and does his annual "change of mind". He is a joke - and not a very funny one.
37459477 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 6:15 PM Steve wrote ...
Get ready to CRY. Favre on his web-site today, last sentence. "I want everyone to know that I will cherish the memories of the past year for the rest of my life". Maybe a retirement hint, please Brent time to call it a day and play on the farm.
37457618 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 2:39 PM Steve wrote ...
JB - groupeeees, mad in love with a NFL player groupeeees, and they will cry again when he retires for the 3rd of 4th time. I am a Packer fan, an no player is bigger than the team, not a one. The Queens can have him, but they will never win a Superbowl, not with old #4 at QB. No-Way - No-Way.
37443396 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 2:30 PM JB89 wrote ...
It amazes me how people can take a team sport and be so blinded by love for one player that they lose all touch with reality.
37442778 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 2:27 PM JB89 wrote ...
I'm not making excuses for Rodgers. He doesn't need any. You said quarterbacks don't play defense, and I agree. I NEVER said he wasn't still a good quarterback. He is. In the regular season anyway. Don't compare what happened between GB and Favre to any of those others. They didn't do the whole offseason I'll let you know when I feel like it and may change my mind multiple times thing. MJ did't go play for the Bucks so he could "stick it" to the Bulls. Did Elway want to be traded to the Browns?
37442574 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 2:22 PM Anonymous wrote ...
Pain Mark - I meant PAIN!!!!!!
37442203 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 2:20 PM Steve wrote ...
NO Mark, the Packers no longer wanted him because he, played his off-season kinder-garden games one too many times, and became a playoff CHOKER. The Jets wanted him, but found out he was not a TEAM PLAYER. The Queens want him because they have never won even one NFL Title, and they hope he has a partially filled tank, capable of helping win the Big-One. They found that he is still a Playoff Choker. Now they Hope for more PIAN from old #$.
37442013 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 1:50 PM Mark wrote ...
Boy, for a 40 year old has been, interception machine, choker, loser, waffler etc, why would any team even want him? Can someone explain why teams still sign him? Hmmmmm must be a great player, leader, teammate, winner, etc....
37439988 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 1:09 PM Steve wrote ...
Brett Favre - bigger than football - bigger than the NFL - the league cannot and will not survive without old #4 - HE - will decide if - HE - is going to play next season, and - HE - will do it when - HE - is good and ready - what a moment this is for the NFL. The Interception Machine, deciding if us lonely fans will be blessed with - HIS - presence for yet another season. Please let us know soon Brent - before we forget you.
37437236 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 1:01 PM Mark wrote ...
There you go making excuses for him. I could say the same thing. Minnesota's defense should have stopped New Orleans in OT. Blah, blah, blah. How many total 4th qtr comebacks does Rodgers have anyway? What I'm saying with Favre is that even if he's under contract, if a team doesn't like what a player is doing, they get rid of him. If they thought they were being held hostage (which is a joke) then get rid of him. Did Michael Jordan, John Elway, Marino, etc have to compete for their jobs?
37436658 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 12:27 PM JB89 wrote ...
How many times, especially in 2008, did Rodgers lead the 2 minute offense to a lead changing touchdown, field goal, or attempt only to have the defense turn around and give up a score or have the field goal missed? How many 2 minute drives should he be expected to lead at the end of a game? Your arguments hold no water. He is a very good quarterback. He is respected by his teammates and is an excellent leader. He's not the next Favre, but true Packer fans know that and don't want him to be.
37434183 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 12:10 PM JB89 wrote ...
Need I remind you that Favre was under contract with GB when he retired. They traded him because thats what he wanted. They didn't trade him because "he couldn't play anymore." Again, common sense says you don't give a good player to a team you play twice a year. If he thought he was better than Rodgers, why didn'the offer to come back and compete for the job? He thought he shouldn't have to, he's bigger than the team. I say he was scared that AR would beat him out fair and square.
37432864 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 11:52 AM Mark wrote ...
By a stat QB, I am referring to the fact that he gets good stats but it won't translate into 4th qtr wins because he is afraid of throwing an int. That's what I'm talking about. He's so worried about his stats that he won't risk anything. Sure, with Brett you are going to get some int's but you will also get more wins. Take it or leave it. I disagree with your other comment. The Packers thought Favre was done so don't cry about being hostage. Cut him if you don't like it or deal with it.
37431521 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 9:52 AM JB89 wrote ...
If you think GB would have won 11 games with Favre at QB this season, you know absolutely nothing about football. AR's legs got him out of trouble numerous times where Favre would have either been sacked, or more than likely, thrown an interception. That's part of the reason why you let a future Hall of Famer go. Of course, since you know he's still a good quarterback (but not better than your current starter), you DON'T want him to go to a team you play twice a year. Common sense.
37423222 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 9:48 AM JB89 wrote ...
Mark, you continue to say that Rodgers is a stat quarterback only. How in the world can you say that. Of course then you like to throw Favre's stats at us. As soon as we show that Roger's stats are as good or better, you go back to the stat quarterback thing. You said the quarterback doesn't play defense. In 2008 GB averaged 26.2ppg, 2009 they averaged 28.8. They went from 6-10 to 11-5. Explain how this makes Rodgers a "stat" quarterback.
37422957 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 9:21 AM Mark wrote ...
He didn't hold anyone hostage. That is the funniest quote yet. If you don't like what a player is doing or can't stand what he's doing then cut him. If there were sick of his games, then cut him. Easy solution. No more being held hostage. But would Ted do that? No. Why not? He was scared, that's why.
37421254 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 9:02 AM Steve wrote ...
Mark, The thing you just cannot see is how that ego-maniac held TT, the Packers, and 99% of the true Packer fans HOSTAGE, year after year, while HE decided if we would be HONORED with HIS presence for yet another season. Now HE is doing the same thing to the Queens. Favre is one of the few players in NFL history that really became Bigger than the game. Please honor again BRENT, please play, pretty please. NOT
37420126 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 7:12 AM Mark wrote ...
The other thing is that Terry Bradshaw himself said this year that Brett Favre is the best he's ever seen. Not my words, his. I think I'd take his words over you lame jump on the bandwagon Packer fans.
37415883 Flag for moderationThursday, Feb 11 at 7:11 AM Mark wrote ...
Can you please show my post where I said that Brett was the best QB ever? I never said it. Typical Packers fans that put words in other people's mouths. Sean, are you stupid? Favre did get the Packers to 2 SB's. You must have lots of Packer knowledge. As for the 6 QB's that Steve lists, I agree that they performed better than Brett in the SB. As I said, I NEVER said Favre was the best ever, just better than stat QB only Rodgers and that Thompson is arrogant and should have kept Favre.
37415829 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 11:39 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark - these 6 QB's may not have old #4's records, but thet were better QB's. Why? They led their teams to Championships!! Starr - 5 Titles and 2 SB MVP's // Bradshaw - 4 Titles and 2 SB MVP's // Montana - 4 Titles and 3 SB MVP's // Aikman - 3 Titles and 1 SB MVP // Elway - 2 Titles and 1 SB MVP // Brady - 3 Titles and 2 SB MVP's. Old #4 - Chokers in many games - 1 SB Title and NO MVP's === Playoff CHOKER - #1
37408712 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 11:25 PM Notblindedbybrett wrote ...
Stop feeding the troll!
37408197 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 11:21 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark - You need to quit drinking old #4 kool-aid. You keep talking about his incredible 19 years, his incredible records, his incredible life as a winning QB. MARK - one lousy Superbowl Title - One - Why - Because old #4 choked up 11 other opportunities to win the Superbowl/ Brent Farrve, one of the best regular season QB's ever to play in the NFL. But the list of QB's better than old #4 in the playoffs. VERY LONG - Starr - Bradshaw - Aikman - Brady - Montana -Elway - just to name a few.
37408006 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 11:08 PM Sean wrote ...
Wait a minute - you said the whole point was to get to the Super Bowl. Favre could not get the Packers there. He could not get the Jets there. He could not get the Vikings there. Which by your own criteria means that anything else he has done does not count. So which means the Packers did the right thing by looking to the future and not bringing Favre back.
37407439 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 10:48 PM Notblindedbybrett wrote ...
Mark will keep spouting the same rhetoric over and over again. He obviously has a very unhealthy obsession with Favre. Just wish the two of them well together.
37406689 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 10:46 PM Mark wrote ...
Why wouldn't you have wanted him back? Ask Denver if they'd have wanted Elway for 2 more years or Miami if they could have Marino for 2 more. You don't let a Hall of Fame proven winner go. Favre was a cash king for the organization. Sales at Lambeau have decreased significantly since he left. Bottom line is that he's a winner. 1 losing season out of 19. How many more reasons do you want? My emails are truth, I'm not just saying it. Thompson will be the death of the Packers.
37406667 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 10:17 PM Colleen wrote ...
Mark - you must be trolling. There is no way you could be serious with your comments. Earlier you posted you think the fault is "50/50". Then why stick up for Favre so much? Seriously? You mention Superbowls. Favre only got to two Superbowls and won only one. Why do you stick up for him when you admit he is at least partially at fault? Tell me - why should the team have brought him back?
37405301 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 10:11 PM Mark wrote ...
Look, Rodgers got a chance to learn behind Favre while Favre got thrown in right away and did not learn from anyone. It only shows that Favre was even better than I thought. When you learn from someone as good as Favre eventually it will show. I would say Rodgers is a serviceable starter. I'll give him that, but he's no Favre. 30 interceptions but 44 TD's and a 13-10 record. Better than most. Manning is 9-9. Favre also has 40 more wins than the closest QB. I am not scared. Rodgers=loser
37405026 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 6:16 PM JB89 wrote ...
Let's go back to Favre'e 2nd year as a starter. He had 19. Rodgers had 30. Compare apples to apples. If you want to compare this year, who had more yards while being sacked more times? Who had more rushing yards? Who had the better average per completion? Who had the longest TD pass? Who had more passes for 20 and 40 ? We could do this all day. The fact is you are scared to death that Rodgers and the Packers will be successful without Favre, so you can't admit AR is an excellent quarterback.
37393816 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 6:09 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark --- Farrves 1st two seasons as a starter --- 37 TD's - 37 Interceptions. He learned how to toss picks early. Rodgers 1st two seasons as a starter --- 58 TD's - 20 Interceptions - only 7 this season. Much better start than that - Playoff CHOKER!!!
37393437 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 6:05 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark - that INTERCEPTION MACHINE, Farrve has 30 picks in the playoffs, and he has taken away opportunities for his teamates to play in the Superbowl, with his bone-headed blunders. He is the biggest playoff CHOKER, in the history of the NFL, old #4.
37393211 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 4:34 PM Mark wrote ...
Who had more TD's? The over the hill, has been, interception machine beat out the young, great Packer future Hall of Famer? If a 40 year old had more TD's than the future Hall of Famer he can't be that good.
37387669 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 4:29 PM JB89 wrote ...
Ron Wolf was a great GM. He first won a Super Bowl in his 5th year. GB had 2 Super Bowl appearances in his 18 years as GM. Those numbers could be exceeded by Thompson. They may not be, but I certainly hope they are. How many interceptions did Favre have in his second year as a starter? More than 3 times Rodgers...24. By the way, you're wrong again. Favre had 1 more interception that Rodgers this year. It was a pretty costly one, too. You've got to count the playoffs.
37387263 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 4:17 PM Mark wrote ...
Oops....they were the same....hahahaha. PREIOD
37386493 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 4:15 PM Mark wrote ...
Wow, you've convinced me....NOT. What is the definition of success in football? Super Bowls. Ted has been here 5 years and how many Super Bowls does he have? Wow, if that's a successful GM, I'd hate to see an unsuccessful one. Interception machine, eh? Who had more interceptions this year? Rodgers or the interception machine?
37386333 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 2:42 PM Mark's an idiot wrote ...
Did I spell "dat" correctly? If not, dat's the interception machine's fault too!!!
37379679 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 2:41 PM Mark's an idiot wrote ...
True dat, Steve! True dat!!!
37379608 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 2:28 PM Anonymous wrote ...
P-E-R-I-O-D - YES I did it. It is the Interception Machines fault.
37378676 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 2:26 PM Steve wrote ...
Please stop crying yourself to sleep every night over that, Interception Machine, he only cares about himself. Look, now he is holding the Queens hostage, NO decision yet, and that is pathetic. The Queens management should give him 72 hours to make up his mind, or just cut him. No other player in the history of the NFL has held management hostage like old #4 does. What an ego-maniac.. PREIOD - spelled it right this time.
37378482 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 2:19 PM Steve wrote ...
Mark is one pathetic old #4 groupeeee. Just read his posts, this guy eats, sleeps, and dreams about Farrve, morning, noon, and night. Well Mark I have news for you, TT is one of the best GM's in the NFL, the PACKERS 11 and 5 season was a success, and now they will build on it, hopefully making a run at the Superbowl next season. That was no longer a possibility with the, INTERCEPTION MACHINE, old #4, The Choker. TT was smart, now we have a chance. PERION
37377966 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 12:38 PM JB89 wrote ...
Again, I NEVER said Packer management handled the situation perfectly. I do believe they said the same thing. I simply said they made the right decision in the end. Favre is wrong. He is simply a player that thinks he is bigger than the game. He was/is a very good quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less. His ego caused the problems. By you continually saying the Packers won't be successful, you're continually proving that you're scared they will be.
37370563 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 11:23 AM Mark wrote ...
I am not scared that they will succeed because they won't. I can't believe you people support Thompson. He is the arrogant one. If you really think he is not arrogant you have not done your reading. I say the Thompson-Favre spat was a 50-50 at fault situation. So, I'm not saying Brett was not at fault at all but you cannot tell me that the situation was handled well by Packer management. You think you know the full story of the fiasco but I bet all the negative Packer stuff is not out yet.
37364923 Flag for moderationWednesday, Feb 10 at 9:39 AM JB89 wrote ...
Excellent point Maire. Mark, not one time have I ever said Rodgers will be the next Favre or even that he'll be better. I simply side with all TRUE Packer fans in that the team made the right decision. They called his bluff, and his true colors showed. For you to say you want to see them fail tells me you were never a true fan. When it comes down to it, you are scared to death they will succeed with Rodgers at quarterback. As a fan, I want them to succeed no matter who is under center.
37356756 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 11:40 PM Notblindedbybrett wrote ...
Never forgive him for what he did? You should be talking about the diva. Favre only does this retirement bit to get attention. Any day now I expect to see another picture of the "injuries" or something because attention started to fade away. Favre is pathetic. Just as his supporters are. I could give examples but I know it will not make any difference. The Favre fans will support him even if he were caught in bed with underage teens while watching two dogs fighting in the next room.
37340251 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 11:34 PM Maire wrote ...
What did he do? Favre left. Then kept waffling until the Packers finally said goodbye. This is all Favre's fault. He admitted that he always thought they would keep asking him and then did the diva act when the Packers had enough. The team is more than one player and one player should not hold a team hostage while he pretends to be undecided. Thompson should be given a medal - not vilified. Thompson did the right thing. Enough with the hero worship. Favre does not deserve it.
37340021 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 10:01 PM Mark wrote ...
I do want them to fail until Thompson is gone. I will never forgive him for what he did and I'm not the only one. There are many of us fans out there. Once he is gone it might be different.
37335766 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 9:27 PM Maire wrote ...
Mark-the problem is that you want the Packers to fail. There is no rationale for it. You want them to fail because Favre is no longer with them. You will ignore anything good the Packers do because of this obsession you have with Favre.
37334041 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 7:57 PM Mark wrote ...
Of course it will go on without him. I don't have a problem with that. Football is always bigger than a player. Rodgers might be a decent player but you will see over the years that he is no Brett Favre and you'll see it by the fact that they will not win as many games. You might rip Favre for his int's in some big games but just think how many times he wins games too. You discount that. Rodgers is a stat QB, plain and simple and you won't realize it until the next 10 years have gone by.
37329823 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 4:21 PM TerryJ Vey wrote ...
I am not getting into the Brett Favre arguement!Give this guy credit for doig somethig differnt.
37311193 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 3:18 PM Mark's an idiot wrote ...
You know man he's not bigger than the game. Football will go on without Brent Farve.
37301464 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 2:59 PM JB89 wrote ...
I guess that means that hitting on 30% of your draft picks is a good number for GMs. Face it, they did a great job replacing a legend at quarterback. You can't stand the fact that Rodgers has come in for your hero and been successful. Facts are facts. It kind of sucks for you because after 40 plus years of supposedly being a Packer fan, you will have nobody to cheer for when Favre finally retires. Enjoy your football seasons bashing the Packers management. Should be fun.
37299683 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 2:56 PM JB89 wrote ...
I'd like to see where I said Favre was useless. You never were a Packer fan if you jumped ship over the Favre issue. Management hardly sold out the fans. They did what was best for the TEAM. I agree that the Packers had a great record while Favre was their quarterback. I was as big a fan of his as anybody. However, HE SOLD OUT THE FANS. HE RETIRED. HE WENT TO THE VIKINGS SO HE COULD STICK IT TO THE PACKERS. You worship him like he's God. Where will he move his franchise next year?
37299503 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 2:37 PM Mark wrote ...
You think I am a Viking fan but you are wrong. I'm a Brett Favre fan. If you look at the Packer wins & losses from the time he got here until when he left, you'll have a hard time finding a team with a better record in that time frame. I already know that it has to do with more than just the QB but the QB is a big part of it.
37297752 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 2:34 PM Mark wrote ...
I know everything about their roster. I was a Packer fan for 42 years up until 2 years ago when management acted like they knew everything and pretty much sold out the fans. It shouldn't be hard to replace a 17 year veteran who in your words is useless. That should be easy. I don't want to compare to other GM's. Why should I? I'm saying Thompson's picks hit 30%. Plain and simple. Guys like Harrell, Lee, Thompson, Underwood, Poppinga, Sitton, Flynn etc are all a dime a dozen.
37297571 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 12:57 PM JB89 wrote ...
And, they were 6-10 the year before. Going from 6-10 to 11-5 with a new quarterback replacing a guy who was there for 17 years...that's called seeing your team improve dramatically. Do you understand? That's 5 more wins this year than last. A team on the rise. Continued improvement. That's what you like to see, especially with a young team.
37289971 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 12:52 PM JB89 wrote ...
You could have just started another post, or couldn't you figure that out? Maybe the Packers will lose more next year, but maybe not. I want more than just speculation base arguments. For some reason that seems to be all you can do, speculate and throw out weak statistics. The fact is, you know nothing about the Packers roster or the guys on it. That's why you included guys that were on injured reserve.
37289531 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 12:47 PM JB89 wrote ...
You call me a first grader and throw some loose stats out there. Give me facts. Worthless why, because they were injured? Are all football players that contribute to a team starters? Who are you to say they wouldn't start? You've scouted them in practice? Give me facts. Give me reasons they wouldn't start elsewhere. Give me other GMs and the number of draft picks they still have on their rosters contributing. Compare the Packers schedule with the viqueens. You still need to win the games.
37289057 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 11:56 AM Mark wrote ...
You get it straight. I didn't include 2009 because I ran out of room. If you read my original note I said he was hitting on 30% roughly. I never said ALL the picks stunk. And of course some of them are on the roster. He can't cut all his picks or he'd have no players. Wow, this is like 1st grade. Many of those guys you listed are worthless and would not start on other teams. 11-5 this year but what about last? Next years schedule will be much tougher and you will lose more games.
37285002 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 9:59 AM JB89 wrote ...
2008: Jordy Nelson, Pat Lee, Jermichael Finley, Jeremy Thompson, Josh Sitton, Breno Giacomini, Matt Flynn, Brett Swain. You didn't include 2009 because most of them contributed a ton as rookies. Here you go: BJ Raji, Clay Matthews, TJ Lang, Quinn Johnson, Jarius Wynn, Brandon Underwood, and Brad Jones. Get your facts straight, Mark, youngest team in the NFL 11-5=good drafts. It's not easy to make a team in the NFL. I'd say Thompson has hit plenty of times.
37276072 Flag for moderationTuesday, Feb 9 at 9:53 AM JB89 wrote ...
OK, first of all, you have included guys still on the roster. I suppose their all supposed to be in the Pro Bowl? Secondly, is every draft pick supposed to make the team? Other GMs never miss? How's this, 2005: Aaron Rodgers (steal of the draft), Nick Collins, Brady Poppinga, Mike Montgomery. 2006: AJ Hawk, Daryn Colledge, Greg Jennings, Jason Spitz, Will Blackmon, Johnny Jolly. 2007: Brandon Jackson, James Jones, Allen Babre, Korey Hall, Desmond Bishop, Mason Crosby.
37275756 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 5:19 PM Mark wrote ...
Ok, here we go. This is just a sample of Ted's elite picks. Are you taking notes? 2005-Terence Murphy, Marviel Underwood, Junius Costen, Mike Hawkins, Mike Montgomery, Craig Bragg, Kurt Campbell, Will Whitaker, 2006-Abdul Hodge, Cory Rodgers, Will Blackmon, Ingle Martin, Tony Moll, Tyrone Culver, 2007-Justin Harrell, Brandon Jackson, Aaron Rouse, Allen Barbre, David Clowney, Mason Crosby, Korey Hall, Deshawn Wynn, Clark Harris, All of the 2008 draft except Finley and Nelson and that's not '09
37240122 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 3:49 PM Mark's an idiot wrote ...
Yeah Mark, you love him!!!!! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha!! What are you going to get your boyfriend for valentine's day?
37233679 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 3:16 PM JB89 wrote ...
Mark, Which crappy players did TT bring to the Packers? Couldn't have been many with an 11-5 record. Do I need remind you that YOU were the one pointing out on an earlier blog that Rodgers hasn't won a playoff game. Now you say 1 player can't win or lose them? Make up your mind. Rodgers will never win a Super Bowl? We'll see. When/if he does, he will tie your boyfriend, brent, and have 1 more than your viqueens. Predictions are meaningless, but they're your best argument.
37231244 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 3:11 PM JB89 wrote ...
Wow, Mark, You're really in love with him, aren't you? Do you recall that in the famous 4th and 26 game the Eagles tied it after that play, and the game went into overtime. The Eagles went 3 and out to start overtime, and Favre...you guessed it, INT!!! Dawkins could have fair caught it. Obviously there are other players out there, and he didn't lose it on his own, but your worshipness should be able to win it on his own according to you!! Now, give me some more of your infinite wisdom.
37230909 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 1:32 PM Jeffy wrote ...
OH YEAH MARK? WELL, I THINK RODGERS IS ONE HUNDRED MILLION BILLION TIMES MORE BETTERER THAN FAVRE. HA!
37223529 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 1:29 PM inprisoned_detainee wrote ...
@Mark: They have computers in your Pre-K class? Do you know how many playoff games has Favre thrown a game winning ( or losing depending on the way you look at in) INT? Eh, let me help you out. In the two NFC Champ games, Favre's last pass was to the other team. Your boy is just as much of an embarrassment to society as you are. Go drink some of your mothers breast milk. Time for all toddlers such as yourself to take their naps.
37223222 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 1:04 PM Mark wrote ...
I think Brett is still a better QB than Manning and is 100 times better than A-rod. Packer fans sell themselves as knowledgeable football fans. That's a hoot. If Brett is a choker, what does that make guys like Marino and other great QB's that NEVER won a SB? Mannings interception yesterday just shows that, that stuff can happen to anyone. The best thing ever is that A-rod will never win a SB. Never, ever, ever and Packer fans will still love him for that. Hahahehehaha.
37221429 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 11:26 AM JB89 wrote ...
Shelly, I have personally seen 2 live. They won one of them. Since I wasn't alive for the first 2 I've seen video. What's your point?
37214119 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 9:52 AM Jeffy wrote ...
Ya, chin up. Only 137 more INTs and Manning will surpass Brent.
37207419 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 9:51 AM Anonymous wrote ...
Mark want to know who is worser, Brent or Paynton. ======== my friend. Both are big-time QB's, with misreable failures in the playoffs. Both have become bigger than the game. Both will have one Superbowl title to their credit, which is great, but far from expectation. So Sad - TOOOO BAD
37207309 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 9:43 AM Steve wrote ...
Mark, at least you are now coming to realize what a choker old #4 is, comparing his playoff failures with Mannings. That is a step in the right direction Mark. Two big-time QB's with many a playoff failure because of their mistakes. But Packer fans will remember old #4's blunders, his picks, his turnovers, what a CHOKER>
37206904 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 9:19 AM Jeffy wrote ...
You are right Mark. Favre's last interception was much better than Manning's; at least I enjoyed it a lot more. I actually think Manning's INT negated Favres, yeah, that's the ticket.
37205419 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 9:14 AM Anonymous wrote ...
well said Mark - Manning and Farrve - two great QB's - two big-time chokers in the playoffs. Farrve #1 - Manning #2
37205122 Flag for moderationMonday, Feb 8 at 8:54 AM Mark wrote ...
All you Favre haters out there....boy that Peyton Manning is sure great. Much better than Favre.....oops 9-9 in the playoffs and an interception that was just as bad as Favre's or worse.....
37203969 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 11:48 PM Kellen wrote ...
Brett who?
37193102 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 8:53 PM Frank V. wrote ...
Dan you need some new material you are so obsessed with Favre it makes me sick, if I was your boss i would fire you
37186819 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 5:55 PM No shame wrote ...
Odonnell has no shame. The only way he can get people to click on his blogs is if he puts the word "Favre" in the title. Why does he even have a blog? At least write something original or do SOMETHING with your blog Odonnell...because this is really lame and pointless.
37181772 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 2:19 PM Mark wrote ...
Yea, JB, 4th and 26th was Brett's fault. Keep dreaming. He also was playing a lot of cornerback against Plexico 2 years ago. You like to put 100% of the blame on Brett and no blame on the normal crappy players Ted has loaded up on this team. Wake up. 1 player doesn't win games and 1 doesn't lose them either.
37173104 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 1:42 PM steve wrote ...
I hope he does come back he is good for the league,but if they can't agree on a new CBA it won't matter anyway cause football as we know will not exist beyond 2012 and that is the sad part.We the fans will suffer for all the greed in the NFL.Maybe that is what Brett is thinking one more year then retire and a lockout will prevent peyton from getting at his records.Believe me if means more to him than he says it does.
37171604 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 12:17 PM SHELLEY RACINE wrote ...
jb89 how many SB's have you watched and GB won? don't lie now, how many
37168007 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 10:58 AM JB89 wrote ...
The Packers have won 3 Super Bowls and lost to the viqueens one time in each of those seasons. Guess what's the ONLY thing people remember about those seasons? That's right, Brian, something you queen fans can't understand...a Super Bowl Championship!!!!!
37164362 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 10:54 AM JB89 wrote ...
Hey, Brian, It's not actually all talk about Favre blowing a playoff game...it's playoff GAMES. Check your history. Also, we Packer fans take it as a compliment that the only thing you viqueen fans use to gauge the success of a season is whether or not you beat the Packers. Awwwww, we've never won a Super Bowl, and we blew yet another shot at a Super Bowl title this year, but at least we beat the Packers. We want to beat the queens, but I'd take 14-2 with a Super Bowl title any day!
37164129 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 10:48 AM shelley racine wrote ...
yes, he chokes, yes, he's a interception machine and yes he's a bone head at times, but I still want to watch him every sunday. AR IS GREAT, but I still want to watch Favre and national ratings indicate that so does the rest of America, except Wisconsin. 37163469 Flag for moderation
37163829 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 9:18 AM Jeffy wrote ...
I absolutely love Favre fanatics. To the person, the insist on seeing only the good and never the bad. Pointing out reality to them is like trying to feed a dog a pill; good luck. You have to accept both sides of Brett. It is said in some circles that "perception is reality". This is especially true for Favre acolytes. It is also true that reality hit pretty hard with about 30 seconds left in the NFC Championship game. Save your blind faith for something with a higher cause.
37159442 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 9:13 AM mr.Rodgers barrio wrote ...
um...again another brett take...How about talk about how arod played at the pro bowl..or how he held up the packers helmet and pointed to the team instead of himself...how cares about brent.
37159214 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 8:39 AM FLORIDA PACKER BACKER... wrote ...
WELL......NOT HAPPY WITH VIKES COACH.. WAAAAAA........VIKES PLAYED EASIEST SCHEDULE IN NFL LAST YEAR....CAUGHT PACKERS WITHOUT 5 OFFENSIVE PLAYERS... PLEASE COME BACK......YOU SHOULD KNOW VIKINGS COLOR PURPLE SAME COLOR YOU GET BEFORE YOU CHOKE TO DEATH AND VIQUEENS ALWAYS CHOKE......AND A VIKING WITH A SUPER BOWL RING IS A THEIF......PAYTON MANNING LOOKS PROFESSIONAL POST GAME NOT LIKE A SCRUFFY OLD MAN..... GO PACK GO.......
37157939 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 3:02 AM Brian wrote ...
All of this talk of Favre blowing a playoff game is ridiculous. The Vikings made it to the NFC Championship game. What did the Packers do in the playoffs again? Better yet...what did Aaron Rodgers do? Oh...that's right. First play of the game a pick. Last play of the game a fumble. At least the Vikings' defense had the chance to stop the Saints. Rodgers didn't even give his team that opportunity.
37153314 Flag for moderationSunday, Feb 7 at 2:12 AM Diamond Dave wrote ...
No doubt Mr. Ego will be back. What else does he have to do? He can't stand not having people talk about him, so retiring just isn't an option...but watching him blow another playoff game next year will be worth it
37152712 Flag for moderationSaturday, Feb 6 at 1:10 PM inprisoned_detainee wrote ...
I bet O'Donnells panties gets wet when he thinks about Favre. His last 4 blogs were Favre related. You should have a hand full of laundry to do...
37126752 Flag for moderationSaturday, Feb 6 at 11:43 AM Magnum wrote ...
Oh boy, I can hardly wait to read the comments from the Favre freaks over this. I can hear their heads exploding now. Seriously people, lighten up and get a sense of humor.
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