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Gasp! Should the Packers Have Kept Favre After All?

By Dan O'Donnell

I didn't want to write this, I really didn't.  Heck, I don't even want to be thinking it.  Yet some time in the middle of Brett Favre's second consecutive dissection of my beloved Packers, I was.  Again.  For the first time since last summer, I got that queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach.  For the first time in a long time, I thought the thought that no devoted Packer fan should.

 

Maybe they should have taken Brett back after all.

 

 

I know what you're thinking right now, believe me, I know...and I agree with you.  I'm an idiot.  I'm living in the past.  I'm a hopeless romantic who remembers the records and comebacks but conveniently forgets the infuriating interceptions in pressure situations and diva behavior each offseason.  Trust me, I remember.

 

And yes, I do agree that Aaron Rodgers is one of the best young quarterbacks in football and that even with my beloved St. Brett behind center, Green Bay's banged-up defense would have still relegated the team to a sub-.500 record last season.

 

So why am I thinking that Green Bay should have welcomed him back with open arms four months after he retired?  Why am I putting a player--no matter how talented he my be--ahead of the team (much like Favre himself did when he put the Packers through the awkward Training Camp Circus of 2008)?

 

Because this player proved tonight that he is still, at age 40, one of the best quarterbacks in the league and, more importantly, a leader of men who makes everyone on his team just a little bit better.  With no disrespect to Rodgers, Favre's veteran leadership is precisely what separates good teams from great ones, and it is Favre's presence in Minnesota that has turned it from a great collection of players into a Super Bowl-contending team.

 

This is the ultimate irony of Favre: he is quite possibly one of the most selfish, "me-first" players in the NFL off of the field, but once the game starts, he is both a consummate teammate and exceptional field general.  With the precision passing and cannon arm of a man half his age and veteran moxy unrivaled in all of professional sports, Favre is able to lead by example and win with talent.

 

Not coincidentally, this leadership and sense of direction have eluded the Packers since Favre was traded to New York.  The youngest roster in the NFL (for what feels like the tenth consecutive season) is still racking up foolish penalties, missing easy blocking assignments, and looking generally lost in crunch time.  Why do you think they brought back Ahman Green?  It sure wasn't to return kicks!

 

No, the Packers recognized a deep void in their locker room that will never show up in the stat sheet--heart, grit, swagger.  Green Bay doesn't so much miss its Dan Marino.  It misses its General Patton.  

 

Though much is made of Favre's stellar supporting cast in Minnesota (an I won't argue that Adrian Peterson is the best running back in football, that the Vikings have a bruising offensive line, or that their pass rush is downright terrifying), it has been Brett more than any of his teammates--even Peterson--who has won the Vikings football games this season.

 

Think about it.  In Minnesota's two wins against the Packers, Peterson was solid but hardly spectacular but Favre threw for seven touchdowns.  While Green Bay focused on containing Peterson, it was Favre who picked apart their normally-staunch secondary.  Even when the superstar running back wasn't dominating, the Vikings were still winning.  Why?  Heart, grit, swagger.

 

I hate myself for even thinking this--let alone writing about it--but I'm starting to believe that my Pack has a serious deficiency of all three, and for the first time in a long time I believe I know why. 

Wednesday, Nov 4 at 3:05 PM Bart Reynolds wrote ...

I'm a Packers fan, but can't understand why 13-3 team wouldn't do everything to keep a legend. the 2007 NFC Championship game against the Giants was a great game, the interception was heartbreaking, but not being in the playoffs is even worse. Favre is the "it" factor that makes this a playoff team, not Rogers. Vikings are playoff bound, Packers are staring at 8-8, that won't get it done.

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 5:23 PM Ellen wrote ...

By the way - anyone remember the "early" Favre? Rodgers is doing just fine. Favre can die happy now - he got his ego stroked by the idiot Favre Fanatics and by winning against the Packers. Want to know what he is really like? Talk to the Jets players who played with him instead of hero worship.

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 5:21 PM Ellen wrote ...

No. Favre made the decision to leave. Many times. He left. Should the entire team be held hostage by his waffling? Do you really think the Packers would be better if he were quarterback? The answer is "no". The Packers did the right thing. Let Minnesota go through this next year. The Packers are on the right track. Period.

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 2:08 PM JDN wrote ...

I am so sick of hearing about Brett Favre. Just about everything other than QB is a mess with this team right now, and yet the only thing anyone wants to harp on is Aaron Rodgers vs Brett Favre. Get over it, because Brett already has. It's pathetic how many adults worship this guy like they were 4 year olds drooling over some super hero. He's a terrific QB who's had his share of f***ups himself.

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 6:45 AM f00tba11IoI wrote ...

One more thing. For those of you who are saying that Favre also started 4-12 and 8-8. That wasn't after going 13-3 and championship. Just face it. Aaron Rodgers is good but he's not and will never be in the same league as Brett Favre. he doesn't have the intangibles and he's not a winner. And how could you say that Favre chokes in big games when Aaron Rodgers never even played in one?

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 6:40 AM f00tba11IoI wrote ...

I would also like to say that I've noticed a trend with the Minnesota Vikings. when they get a lead seem to soften up on the defense. They start playing 5 to 10 yards off the receivers which open up slants and crossing routes. This is why ARod looks so good after the Vikings got up in both games in the beginning the Vikings bumped and jammed the receivers which allowed Jared and company the opportunity to get ARod because he's lost without the slants. Don't take my word for it. Check what I say

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 6:30 AM f00tba11IoI wrote ...

I do believe that Aaron Rodgers inherited the same team that Brett left in 2007 which was 13-3 with Farve. This is similar to the Doug Flutie vs. Rob Johnson situation they had at Buffalo 10 yrs ago. Rob Johnson was the young stud and Flutie was the old vet gunslinger who played with the same enthusiasm and love for the game that Favre has. Flutie led the Bills to the playoffs 2 years in a row and Buffalo hasn't been back since. They should've let Favre play himself out of the starting role.

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Tuesday, Nov 3 at 1:34 AM Tony wrote ...

I am very dissapointed in the management and fans of one of the best nfl franchises. MM and TT duped us all and traded (yes traded) the greatest Packer of all time. The game on Sunday convinced me that trading Brett was a huge mistake. MM and TT must go and we will move on with Aaron. I miss our Brett!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:29 PM Mike wrote ...

When those two arrogant blowhards told Favre to take a hike, I knew what was going to happen to the Packers. MM is clueless and has been from Day One. TT said one of the reasons he hired MM was because he thought he would be a good guy to have a beer with and that shows wha we should have expected from these two lamebrains. All the fans and media who dissed Favre and drank the Ari Fleischer KoolAid are as stupid. Fans' behavior this week completed the franchise destruction. It all makes me sick

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:24 PM Go Pack!! wrote ...

Brett Favre for three years was on again off again. He was asked one final time if he wanted to play. No he said, I am done. The team drafted 2 quarterbacks and moved on. If it were not for the Packers organization, you may not even know who he is!! Brett should have stayed retired out of respect for who made him great! Instead he is vindictive against the team? No person is above the organization. Brett caused the problem and should have been man enought to stand by his decision! Go Pack!!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:07 PM Just-A-Fan wrote ...

I am a Vikings fan and have lived in Wi for the past 12 years. When the Packers started talking about letting Favre go, I told my Packer Fans that they will miss him when he is gone. As a Vikings fan, we haven't had a real QB for so long, that it is great having Favre on our team. There is such a difference watching a great QB run your offense, compared to a good QB. Favre makes everyone on the Vikings better by just leading by example. I think AR is a good QB, but Favre is special.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:03 PM Glenn In Florida wrote ...

Over & over I hear, "Brett brought GB back on top." It was not Brett who brought GB back on top it was Wolf & Holmgren. If they had not been able to get Brett, GB would still have gone to the SB and still won, if fact maybe more than 1 in 16 years. The truth is without Wolf & Holmgren, Brett Farve would have been just another QB. Plus I hear all this about winning & Brett. How many SB's did he win? Just one!! Winning SB's is all that matters in Pro Football.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:02 PM Another anonymous wrote ...

If Favre was still a Packer, he'd be on injured reserve this season already playing behind our offensive line. Rodgers is now a good fit for the Packers. Good luck as a Viking Brett

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:26 PM 44NASH wrote ...

TT presured Farve to retire, Farve didnt want to do training camp, and he shouldnt have been pressured to?? He wanted to use the extra time to heal his body, the game is all mental anyway for a vet like Farve, duh??? Farve just wanted to come in as a professional, which he would have commanded respect, and work ethic for the entire team, and they would have fell in line....(leadership) duh He became addicted to painkillers trying to giv his all to a fault, loyalty! Unintelligent fanbase

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:21 PM Marion Guzanick wrote ...

In one interview I saw, Favre said he didn't want revenge, he wanted to prove he was still worthy. Well, Brett, YOU ARE WORTHY!!!!!!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 9:47 PM CD wrote ...

You threw him away like garbage, now you want him back. This is KARMA biting your asses. Hurts don't it.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 7:44 PM Packer Fanforever wrote ...

I vote that we fire Ted Thompson not just for literally kicking Brett Favre out of Green Bay, but most importantly for the other player personnel team decisions that lag behind the decisions made by other organizations (yes, including the Vikings). And fire Mike McCarthy for going along with Thompson, too. Under those two, the Packers will never again win a super bowl, no matter how good Aaron Rodgers turn out to be.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 6:54 PM Troy wrote ...

I have to disagree with the me first off the field.How many times did Favre have a "make a wish" dream come true for special neeeds kids?How many times did he rework his contract to free up money?You can't be shelfish and do those other things.On the field,how many more lineman are going to say" he gets rid of that fast" to not believe he wouldn't be doing that for the Pack if he was still here?Packers were saying where the biltz was coming before the play started.Things like that keep the QB up

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Monday, Nov 2 at 6:06 PM Packoutwest wrote ...

I do not understand why anyone would boo Favre. As a packer fan I would not boo the guy. I understand not cheering for him in a game but to boo him? Why? Did he ever say anything bad about packer fans? I guy played 16 years in GB and got them back on the map and he wants some time every year to decide what he wants to do. Yes, he retired. He changed his mind.Is that so wrong? It's about ego's and TT decided his was the biggest. Also, what kind of pedigree does MM have? Get used to mediocrity.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 6:06 PM ken wrote ...

Yes, Brett leads with interceptions but......... HE WINS GAMES! Every Brett Favre hater needs to face the fact that TT made a HUGE MISTAKE,and now the team is paying for it. Our leader is now gone, and the team is falling apart. Its reality people!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 6:03 PM ken wrote ...

Yes Brett leads in interceptions but.............

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Monday, Nov 2 at 4:12 PM Happy Hodag wrote ...

Hey Harry, what about the 07 record of 13-3?!!!! Fire TT & MM

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Monday, Nov 2 at 4:05 PM Harry Hodag wrote ...

Are you serious? Did you look at the numbers yesterday? Rodgers did fine. It wasn't the QB'ing that lost the game, it was the poor play of the special teams(field position)poor play on the offensive line. Brett Farve is a old news, dude. How can you account for the Packers 4-12 year when Favre was younger? It's personnel, coaching and discipline, but not at the QB spot. W

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Monday, Nov 2 at 3:50 PM Packer Backer wrote ...

I think if you kept the teams the same and just changed the QB's you would have had the same outcome! The game was not about Farve vs. Rogers. It should be on the back of TT and MM! The Packers don't have a TEAM good enough to get the job done!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 3:08 PM Packer backer wrote ...

Don't forget: Cold weather "big wins" late in Favre's career...few and far between. Playing indoors and now possibly through out the playoffs is good. If the Packers can't make the Super Bowl this year, I hope Favre wins it all. Then he can retire on top and the Vike's will be "just another team" without a QB.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 2:19 PM Artimus wrote ...

Ted Thompson is a joke. His decision to let Favre go when he wanted to come back is now biting him back. Who knows what could have happened if brett was welcomed back. Another Super Bowl ring? Maybe. But we will never know because of ted's stupid decision

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Monday, Nov 2 at 1:40 PM Kevin wrote ...

Even when the Packers made their typical mini run in the second half I knew they weren't going to win it. We create to many messes that we'll 'clean up'-MM. MN goes into prevent and we add a few points...so what! Rodgers IS going to suffer a season ending injury then we'll be stuck with Brohm. THROW IT OUT OF BOUNDS, throw it only where our guys can catch it..whatever...pass the ball. You're a great player ARod, you don't have to prove it on every play...and oh yeah, fire TT and MM and MM. cya!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 1:34 PM Glenn In Florida wrote ...

Wolf bring Farve to GB where he played under Mike Holmgren saved Brett's career. Holmgren took a raw talent & turned him into a great QB. How far do U think Farve would have gone in Atlanta? The Pack own nothing to Farve cause without GB & Holmgren, Farve would have drank his way out of football. Holmgren took another team to the SB with a QB he taught. How many SB's has Brett been to without Holmgren?

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Monday, Nov 2 at 1:27 PM Greg wrote ...

To my fellow Packer fans and cheeseheads... Our team kicked the most passionate, entertaining, and durable quarterback in the history of the game out of Green Bay and out of WI. For 16 glorious years, Favre made all of us better. We knew he was human, that he could make mistakes. But we also knew that he would play with every ounce of his soul and never give up. We BELIEVED every minute of every game that we could still win - no matter what the score. And win we did. And now you boo him?

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Monday, Nov 2 at 1:03 PM Dave wrote ...

You hit the nail right on the head. Brett has the leadership qualities that Rodgers doesn't have. It is the qualities that seperate a above average quarterback from a legend. Just look at preseason magazines at how the Vikings had AP and some mediocore receivers. Now since Brett has arrived, the Vikings have dangerous offensive weapons and scoring threats. What's the difference since July? Brett Favre makes others around him better! That's leadership!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:36 AM Marc Sandmann wrote ...

I never enjoyed a football game more. Brett was just unbelievable yesterday. Packer fans Ted Thompson has set your precious franchise back ten years. You are not going anywhere until the three stooges are fired. Oh by the way I used to think Packer fans were classy not anymore. You are all getting what you deserve!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:25 AM Chet wrote ...

Dan, Favre would have been carried off on a stretcher if he was playing behind this years Packers O-Line. Focus on poor defense, bad special teams, atrocious o-line and penalties. Aaron Rodgers is not the problem and Brett Favre would not be the answer for this years team.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:11 AM Ken wrote ...

It was a no brainer in July/August of 08 Brett should be the starting QB for the Greeen Bay Packers. I would have rather watched the Packer be 8-8 in 08 and 11-5 in 09 than what we are going to end up with. Most likely no playoffs two years in a row

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Monday, Nov 2 at 11:00 AM kathy wrote ...

I'm so glad that Brett is doing so good,he is the best player ever, how do you like him now, TT. You should be fired for making such a bad move. Brett sure dosen't look "WASHED UP" to me! Go Brett, you are awesome!!!!!!!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:59 AM Eric in San Diego wrote ...

The man is 40 years old......he sure is fun to watch! He's still like the 8 year old boy who hit his first home run after a touchdown or big play. Way to boo your Packer legend Wisconsin!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:44 AM Fran 10 wrote ...

Take a long hard look at recent draft picks and free agent signings by the Pack. Compare those with the Vikings moves. Peterson, Harvin, Rice, Greenway, Henderson, Williams, Loadholt,McKinnie, Hutchinson,Winfield,

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:29 AM Kathy wrote ...

It's about time for people to use their heads and admit that TT got rid of Favre and if we still had him we would be in the playoffs. Even with our sketchy offensive line Favre can react and read defenses better than Rodgers.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:13 AM Viking Troll wrote ...

Thanks to all the season tix holders that sold your tix's to the fair weather Viking fans. You should be applauded for your selfishness.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:11 AM vikings trolls wrote ...

I love how these people think Brett did nothing wrong. It's all TT's and MM's fault. I have had enough of the "I love the Pack but I love Brett also". People, get a clue, he didn't want to play for the Pack the last two years. This is what he wanted all along, what I laugh at is fans that think booing Brett Favre and the VIKINGS is classless. Hand in your season tix's, there are plenty available in Minnesota. We don't need you. Brett is the biggest me first guy in the NFL. Believe that.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:03 AM Ryan V wrote ...

I'm also glad that the Vikings crushed the Pack twice. Now hopefully you whiny Favre haters will shut up. I am so tired of the "favre funeral", stupid favre hater songs, and booing him in GB. You have proven that you make poor decisions and have little class.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 10:00 AM Ryan V wrote ...

Excellent analysis DOD. Favre haters can enjoy the next 16 years of mediocrity. And hey Tom, wouldn't you rather lose the NFC championship on the last pass than be a perenially 6-10 team? Get a clue...

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Monday, Nov 2 at 9:50 AM Ben Zoltak wrote ...

Well put Mr. O'Donnell. The only item I would add is that Ted Thompson has left our side nonplussed.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 9:33 AM Chris Lipski wrote ...

Favre 2 Green Bay Bumpkins 0 game over

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Monday, Nov 2 at 8:55 AM Jeri wrote ...

Brett Favre is the greatest quarterback ever! Of course TT made a HUGE mistake when he didn't keep him. I was a Favre/Jets fan last year and a Favre/Vikings fan this year! I think TT was a complete idiot throwing away the best quarterback to ever ever play the game for what, a hope and a prayer? TT has destroyed the Packers and I am sorry AR will NEVER be half the quarterback Brett is!!!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 8:49 AM Glenn In Florida wrote ...

Farve may have given his all to the Pack, but in return he got millions of dollars for it. 2nd Brett was let go not just because of the retiring garbage, it was TT didn't think he could win the big game anymore. Brett has play great during the season for most of his career, but come clutch time he almost always fumbled or threw it away. If by chance the Vikes win the SB, which I doubt, I might think different. I just believe Brett has 1 more heartbreaker interception left for the Vikes fans.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 8:49 AM mr z wrote ...

You know i always beleived am agreenbay packers fan until the the desicion for our t.thompson and mcarthy and turned on farve .i just cant beleive you will let any player like farve you were one game from superbowl because i dont want to say from him but abviously he got alot to do with it ...i just hate to see the packers looseing but at the same time i want farve to do well ,,,aquick reminder for t.thompsoon and mm ..when jordan retired from chicago and decide to come back the took him back

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Monday, Nov 2 at 8:27 AM I Actually Think wrote ...

No, we shouldn't have kept Favre. But we should not keep Thompson and McCarty either.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 8:08 AM WA Dan wrote ...

No GB should not have kept him. The quarterback position is not the problem with the Packers. Look at the numbers and they are virtually the same. The difference is the offensive line. Imagine how many more plays Rodgers would have if he had a more stable pocket. Yes Rodgers needs to learn to throw it away sometimes but if GB had a good o-line he wouldn't have to worry about throwing it away in the first place.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 8:01 AM pete wrote ...

With everyone giving their opinions, what is clear to me as i watched the game is-the Viking's brass have done a much better job of acquiring,drafting players than T.T. night and day-compare the 5 top players taken in the last 5yrs. Only Rogers is impact player-Greenway,Peterson,Harvin-let alone the trade for Allen- does anyone else see this!The beat writers for the packers will not hang T.T. out to dry! Its about time you do!!!

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Monday, Nov 2 at 7:48 AM Joel From Madison wrote ...

All you "fans" that booed Favre when he came on the field should be ashamed of yourselves. Yes, it kills me that my favorite player is playing for the Vikings and Yes, I hate the Vikings as much as any Packer fan. But seriously, show a little respect for the man who gave everything of himself to the city of Green Bay. I am a Packer fan first but I respect the game of Football and I respect greatness, and Favre is in a league of his own when it comes to greatness. All you haters make me sick.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 6:37 AM Debbie wrote ...

Say what you want about Brett, but he is worth every penny he makes. He brings excitement to the game and you always have a chance to win with him on the field. I don't care if anyone thinks he is selfish, he was a team player on the field and that is all that counts. I'm not sure what anyone means by he was selfish. If the media would have stayed out of it, he might still be a Packer. Do it Brett! We are proud of you.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 6:31 AM fay wrote ...

The better team won on Sunday led by Brett Favre..The move made by the Packers to move on without Brett Favre was a big mistake but a great move for the Vikings.All heart & soul playing by Brett Favre ..Go Vikings! A Favre Fan Forever

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Monday, Nov 2 at 1:50 AM Jacob Waalk wrote ...

"remember why we moved on when Brett completely chokes in the playoffs and the Vikings are left wondering "Why?" again this offseason. Same happened to us. Did we all forget Favre went through a 4-12 season followed by 8-8 with our loveable Packers? Where was "General Patton"" That's a stupid thing to say, both those seasons were partially through Thompson's diastorous rebuilding strategy and dismissing Wahle and Rivera, Favre got sacked like Rodgers only older. Not this fault the team sucked.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 12:38 AM John wrote ...

Favre was not the difference. Chilly will never remind anyone of Lombardi (or even Bud Grant), but the difference was play calling. While Minnesota played the West Coast offense, with 3 step drops, setting up the run and long pass and keeping the QB's jersey clean, GB insisted on playing their … what is it? If your QB is getting hit, run slants, screens and short passes in the flat. McCarthy figured that out in the second half (one of his rare in game adjustments). Too bad it was too late.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 12:37 AM Sweeper City wrote ...

You play for NOW in the NFL, not the possible future. Favre is/was now, telling/making him to go elsewhere (Jets) was a huge mistake. With him on Vikes 2 years later and winning/ BEATING A(hold on the ball way to freakin long)Rod makes u wonder what management was thinking....

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Monday, Nov 2 at 12:33 AM Jim Henderson wrote ...

The Packers organization, which chose to have TT and MM run the show, deserve exactly what they got, all wrapped up with a nice purple ribbon by the greatest football player the Packers will ever have, but then didn't want. The do-nothing executive committee can scratch their collective heads and wonder what happened. I think we're back to the Judge Parins days and it doesn't look good. The wheels have fallen off the cart and the remainder of the season will be a disaster.

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Monday, Nov 2 at 12:16 AM xpacmanfan wrote ...

Thanks to the Packers for developing Brett for the Vikes! Rogers we'll steal you when your ready x pack fan

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:59 PM Tom wrote ...

You'll all remember why we moved on when Brett completely chokes in the playoffs and the Vikings are left wondering "Why?" again this offseason. Same happened to us. Did we all forget Favre went through a 4-12 season followed by 8-8 with our loveable Packers? Where was "General Patton" then? Give the team the tools to succeed and the ywill. I don't think Rodgers can "will" the defense to not give up 38 pts... The QB is one player on a 53 player team.

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:51 PM Vince Lombardi wrote ...

Yea Favre has still got it. But got what? Sure he's a gunslinger who also - by the way - leads the NFL in interceptions with 313 to date! But is the guy any team's future? I think not. After the ViQueens have pissed away a season or two on this dude, and he's finally done for life, the Pack will be looking them in the face with the youngest team in football, led by a premiere quarterback whose there to stay. That's more than the Pack has had for a while! A game or two can't change that!

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 11:15 PM Life is far more than just Sports wrote ...

If you work for an employer for 16 years, then they don't want you because you are getting old. How would you feel? if you booed you're an ignorant person let alone rude. Just enjoy the game people. It's just Sports!

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:16 PM Don wrote ...

Go Favre, go Vikings!

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:14 PM Jim Rafferty wrote ...

I know I'm in the minority on this but the one thing Thompson did right was moving on and handing the keys to Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has shown himself to be a great QB for us. If you look at every loss we've had since Rodgers took over, you can only conclude that they had something to do with poor defense or terrible o-line performance. This year, Rodgers' passer rating is 110.4, best in the league while being sacked 25 times before the Viking game. What if he had a good o-line?

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:13 PM ozzy wrote ...

Well written .... It is a sad thought to have, but the Pack WOULD be better with the king of all prima donas - Brett Favre. The team is a mess, and if you look at their schedule, this team will be about 8 and 8. Ted Thompson, he of the very inexperienced team, the terrible offensive line, the hiring of MM, and what will be 4 non playoff years in 5, needs to be FIRED!

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:11 PM Jeff wrote ...

BreNt Favre and the Vikes win the Super Bowl, TT and McCarthy FIRED. Brett comes back in '10!! One last hurrah?

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:09 PM Kevin wrote ...

Hey Anonymous.. you call yourself a fan, yet write 'anonymous'? "I'm a huge fan", yet you laugh from afar? How are Packer fans embarrasing... Because we boo an opposing player?

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:04 PM Peter wrote ...

This is Ted Thompson's trainwreck. He brought this on all by himself, especially with the classless manner in which he dissed one of the greatest players in franchise history. Personally, I enjoyed both of these games and I'd love it if the Vikings won the Super Bowl just to see the crap sandwich ol' Ted would have to eat. The blank look on the face of ol' Wile E. Thompson, Supergenius, at the end of the game was priceless.

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 10:01 PM Kevin wrote ...

Dan, you hit it on the head. The one thing this young team is missing is a leader. With young players you need a General Patton. You HAVE TO instill discipline. If you don't, you may as well spend cap money to add a few PROFESSIONALS who have discipline. I don't disagree with you that Rodgers is a great young player with huge potential, but does he have the 'it' factor? I just don't get the sense that he's a winner and commands his team to have the will to win. We see it with Favre...

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Sunday, Nov 1 at 9:51 PM Anonymous wrote ...

People in Green Bay are a joke. Im a huge fan that sits back and laughs at this whole thing from afar. I grew up an hour from Green Bay but live in the South. I purchase the NFL ticket every year so I can watch all the games. The Packer fans are embarrasing, people in Wisconsin think on pop warner terms. The only thing that should have been asked last year was "does Favre give us the best chance to win on Sundays" For people in Wisconsin to say hes this selfish buzzard is a disgrace

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