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THURSDAY HOT READ: THE CLIMATEGATE DENIERS

By Charlie Sykes

Michelle Malkin on all the president's men.... in total denial over the unraveling scandal.... Especially worth it for this chart:


Graph via Steve McIntyre

“The science is settled,” we’ve been told for decades by zealous proponents of man-made global warming hysteria. Thanks to an earth-shaking hacking scandal across the pond, we now have mountains of documents from the world’s leading global warming advocacy center that show the science is about as settled as a southeast Asian tsunami. You won’t be surprised by the Obama administration’s response to ClimateGate.

With pursed lips and closed eyes and ears, the White House is clinging to the old eco-mantra: The science is settled.

Never mind all the devastating new information about data manipulation, intimidation, and cult-like cover-ups to “hide the decline” in global temperatures over the last half-century, they say. The science is settled.

Never mind what The Atlantic’s Clive Crook, after wading through the climate science email files of the U.K.’s Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, called the overpowering “stink of intellectual corruption” — combined with mafia-like suppression of dissent, suppression of evidence and methods, and “plain statistical incompetence” exposed by the document trove. The science is settled....

Sunday, Dec 6 at 12:20 PM Michael wrote ...

Sounds Good MADDOG, I want the same health care congress gets for my employees and I. As a side note, I would also like to smoke Cuban Cigars they have access to as well. (Even though we the people are suppose to honor the trade embargo. They are permitted to return with up to $100 worth of Cuban- origin products (cigars, rum, T-shirts, crafts, etc.) for their personal use. Nice!!!

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Friday, Dec 4 at 10:15 AM MADDOG wrote ...

The one BIG "change" this county needs is this : POLITICIANS NEED TO PRACTICE WHAT THEY PREACH. That means any law they pass they have to live by also. Up to and including taxes levied, and the health care reform bs. THEN and only THEN will thing become "fair".

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Friday, Dec 4 at 10:10 AM MADDOG wrote ...

Remember a while back tmj actually put up a note on one of the postings that actually outed a few different names as being from the same internet address.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 10:08 AM TWP wrote ...

"We should also have government that represents the people not special interests." Government, it's employees, and its dependents are by far the biggest and most powerful special interest group in the country. The best way to reduce its influence is to shrink government. A LOT.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 10:08 AM MADDOG to Walt wrote ...

You know they might just all be the same person.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 10:07 AM Walt to MADDOG wrote ...

Well I’m not so sure; the village idiot job market seems to be getting a little thin. We haven’t been hearing from Steverino, Al, Zandar, Dan, Steve, Dawn, Mom of 3 or even Nelson in a long time, remember them? Maybe that’s a good thing; maybe they stopped reading Michael Moore’s junk or maybe WE are beginning to outnumber them. Boy, just think of it someday if we want to see what a liberal looked like we may have to go to a carnival that still has a freak show.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 10:03 AM Mombo Napolitano wrote ...

"We should also have government that represents the people not special interests." Michael, I agree with you. Let's get rid of the both the private and government unions.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 9:34 AM MADDOG to Walt wrote ...

Nah there seems to be an endless supply of idiots out there.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 9:19 AM Mikey wrote ...

I am OZ the Great and Powerful! Pay me homage and carbon credits! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!

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Friday, Dec 4 at 9:18 AM Walt to MADDOG wrote ...

WOW! It looks like Michael’s head just exploded and all of his idiotic left-wing theories just spilled out onto his keyboard, I hope he’s OK because without our village idiot we may have to start looking for another one.

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Friday, Dec 4 at 6:40 AM MADDOG To Michael wrote ...

You my friend are the sick one.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:48 PM News2Use wrote ...

WOW, Michael, please take a stress pill and/or seek professional help. Seriously, I'm concerned about you. There is so much to refute in your statements, but I'm afraid it may put you over the edge. I work for a public school system, by the way, not an oil company. Now, please come in from the ledge... you have so much to live for, you really do... I have your tinfoil hat right here, if you'd just come back in...you can put it on, and everything will be OK...

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:03 PM Michael wrote ...

Get a clue at least we get a little kick back from the casinos. What has big oil and healthcare companies done for you lately. They should be kissing everyone of you guys for supporting this mindless carp. It's networks like FOX created by Rupert Murdoch to push his right wing agenda via a FAKE news channel which sucks ignorant people like you'all to repeat there garbage which is disproved over and over again. Think back to what they rammed into your little heads. WMD's, Dick Chaney,BUSH 41/43

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 9:55 PM Michael wrote ...

You less government fools would love to have passports created in every state as well, etc... etc... Abortion determined State by state, etc... Health insurance sold across state lines.... Polution running rampid, Drilling everywhere, Cars chocking every freeway, 8 lane freeways instead of high speed rail. etc.. etc.. becuase it would cost to much.... What did we get from Iraq, Samolia, etc... It's about Oil and you fools keep supporting the oil companies and health care companies blindly. SICK

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 9:51 PM Michael wrote ...

Don't bother pointing out my spelling mistakes, I care so little for you people I could care less how I spell when I'm typing at a million words a minute fools. Go get your checks from BP, Haliburton, etc... etc... Our Government sure can fund war, but has a hard time funding anything that will improve our lives. We are paying taxes, we should get something for them. We should also have government that represents the people not special interests.. Joe Liberman, McCain, etc.. They love u sheep

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 9:48 PM Michael wrote ...

In my eyes it only has to do with polution. Either your for helping the oil companies milk Billions and Billions from us while we sit in traffic and create more green house gases, etc... etc... Or we start to clean up our act and work toward a better planet. What I was talking about with the gov projects, is that they have to do BIG projects like connecting the Airports with high speed rail. Pointing out that the governement is funded by the people is sick. Thanks for pointing that out for me.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 8:57 PM News2Use wrote ...

I'll cite this article again and see if and how the LIBS will try to refute it - it details the absolute UNscientific basis for the IPCC's claims (also, regarding the graph provided, can any of you deny temps are currently declining?) - anyway, the article was printed at Telegraph.co.uk. by Christopher Booker, "Climate Change: this is the worst scientific scandal of our generation."

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 4:45 PM WiFritz wrote ...

Michael, as I suspected, you've never even heard about the 30,000 scientists because you live in a liberal bubble, communing with your liberal friends, patting each other on the back about how smart you are. Must be a great life. Just for the record, 10,000 of those scientists were PhD's, a group that also includes the founder of the Weather Channel. And LOL at you thinking this is actually about pollution. It is and always has been about two things: money and the redistribution thereof.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 3:45 PM fmff to Michael wrote ...

God, tell me now that you just DID NOT tell me then that the government would pay for the high speed rail/mass transit....you dumas, WE, YOU & ME, are the governments financiers....and tell me of one job that you can have that allows dope smoking on the job?

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 3:33 PM Jim the Fireman wrote ...

Besides, the whole concept that we can change the environment is fraught with logical error. What's the correct temp. of the Earth? If we can cool it, then when would we know if we've cooled it enough? Can we screw up and bring on an ice age? Did the folks in the Middle Ages stop the warming trend by giving up their SUV's and using more solar power? Why did the Ice Age end? Was it a conspiracy of Big Oil?

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 3:29 PM Jim the Fireman wrote ...

Mikey, you're a big boy--read for yourself: http://www.petitionproject.org/ You ask about how we can know that they aren't in the pocket of big oil...how would that be any different than scientists who suck up to big grant money from the likes of George Soros and the UN? Besides, any credibility that the chicken littles in Pro-global warming used to have is now gone. How can we trust the folks who "hide the decline" and destroy data?

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 3:02 PM Tuerqas wrote ...

Michael=moron. Obviously you can read. Now is not the time to ask for the credentials of skeptics or to cite the IPCC. The entire scientific community that is pro Global warming has just been discredited. Take the clip off your nose and smell the stink of your position. It has just been proven that GW and pollution have no reliable ties. Not having been taken for fools by scientists paid to lie, does not make skeptics against cleaning the earth or finding new fuels. It just makes us not fools.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 2:16 PM Michael wrote ...

India just annouced it's 2020 target to reduce emissions by 20-25%. You don't even have to believe in Global Warming to understand that being PRO POLUTION is just plain ignorant. Also China announced a 40-45 percent cut in its emissions by 2020 compared to 2005. We need to start leading in this world again. Not buisiness as usual, that's how the voters spoke to elect Obama in the first place. A rejection of the bush policies and ideaology. Sorry Charlie Sykes....

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 2:12 PM Michael wrote ...

Oh, I forgot... Less goverment, lower taxes... But let's spend more than a few trillion dollars in Iraq and Afganistan. I disagree with Obama on sending more troops by the way. If it's so important, the UN should pay with money and troops. We sould not keep moving George's failed policies forward. We should be working on our country with goals in mind to make us a valid competitor with China in the next 10 to 20 years.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 2:09 PM Michael wrote ...

Ok, let me first say, that I was wrong about 620 pulling my posts... It was a cached page, I was in a hurry 2 leave work. I would like a URL for the 30,000 petition please... As for the 30,000 I'm assuming these are scientists without ties to oil or the church? As for paying for mass transi t, I would expect any project of this magnitude would be done by the goverment, just like the Hover Dam. These are the types of projects our govrn should be attacking instead of waisting $$ overseas.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 1:14 PM Stu wrote ...

Mike, You didn't read the IPCC Third Assessment Report on Climate Change from 2001. If you did you would know that the warming predicted in even the "best case" scenarios has not occurred over the last almost 9 years. Or to use your incredible argumentative style, it is NOT REAL. Better put, though, it's not the settled science that you and others would have us believe.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 12:25 PM WiFritz wrote ...

LOL at Michael citing the IPCC which took its data from the fraudulent East Anglia statistics. Michael's argument: there is global warming because the IPCC says so. LOL And LOL at small number of scientists that deny global warming. I guess you're forgetting about the 30,000 scientists that signed a petition to have their voices heard. Of course you forgot that...you get all your news from the mainstream media. Try thinking for yourself Michael...it will set you free.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:52 AM fmff to Michael wrote ...

Michael, what are you talking about...I have had the pleasure of reading all of your drivel....OMG your'e so affronted...I'll show you all, I just won't post here anymore, WWAAHH...and BTW, who would end up funding your extra high speed rail, dumas?

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:31 AM MADDOG wrote ...

Why not the scientists kept the truth about global warming from getting out....until now. Michael you are all wet and your info is crap.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:21 AM Michael wrote ...

Nice, they are selectively removing some of my posts... Way to go 620, nice way to keep the truth from the people. I'm out of here for good.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:16 AM Michael wrote ...

As for cost of shipping... Just about every other developing nation that is not controlled by the oil and gas lobby understands the benefits of using high speed mass transit. If you ever spent 10 minutes out of this country you would understand how you and I have been sold out!

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:13 AM Michael wrote ...

You'all need to read the "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" IPCC position of January 2001 that states: An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a worming world and other changes in the climate system. There is new stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. As for the 30,000 you mention, what are thier credentials?

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:12 AM MADDOG wrote ...

Oh and by the way the WORST thing that WOULD happen if we burn less gas (unless someone comes up with an alternative fuel that works the same) is the price of everything would go sky high. Because it would more than likely cost way more to ship product.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 11:04 AM MADDOG @ Michael wrote ...

Drilling for our OWN oil would do the same. And by the way what the hell planet are you really living on? Because its not the earth. If you still think global warming is real then you need to lay off the lsd.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:47 AM Jim the Fireman wrote ...

Michael, regarding that "small number" that you talk about: Over 30,000 respected scientists have signed a statement declaring that they are skeptical of 1.) the entire concept that the earth is warming, 2.) if it is that there is no way that man is causing it.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:46 AM Michael wrote ...

Oh, I almost forget the most important part of using less fossil fuels.... We enhance our overall security economically.... America First

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:44 AM Michael wrote ...

The people that are using "Scare Tactics" as you call them are the EXPERTS, not you and NOT ME. The right continues to find some guy funded by Haliburton to put out one study that goes against the general concensus and you'all jump right on the band wagon. What would be the worst thing that could happen if we attempt to use less fossil fuels and polute the environment less? Oh I don't know less of our cash going to the Middle East, less people having breathing problems in cites... Yada Yada Y

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:21 AM ARF77 wrote ...

Michael, Instead of providing facts to support your case, all you're doing is ripping religion and conservatives. FYI it wasn't just the Church that believed the Sun revolved around the earth. The rights biggest issue with Global Warming is policy. They do not want policy forced on them on an issue that proves the history of our planet is warming and cooling trends. Right doesn’t want to go back to days of gas guzzlers, but we also don’t want things forced down our throats with scare tactics.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 10:08 AM Michael wrote ...

It so funny that the right continues to bash global warming issues while ignoring the scientific community overall agreement that it is REAL. I don't have a degree in Earth Science and have not studied the problem, therefore I would not have the arrogance to believe in a view that is only kept by a small number of people in the scientific community.... Dont' forget the church belived the sun went around the earth for oh a couple hundred years.... HA HA HA

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 9:39 AM MADDOG to fmff wrote ...

I really wanted to use the other but thought it might not get posted. So I forced it out the other end. LOL

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 9:08 AM fmff to MADDOG wrote ...

I compliment you on your choice of gas....I will remain vigilant in my consumption of broccoli, deviled eggs, and warm beer until this travesty is brought to light by the MSM...God help my wife and kids, amen....

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 8:49 AM Paladin wrote ...

Amazing how the rats are jumping off the "Good Ship Gore" lately. 'Bout time this scam was exposed.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 8:45 AM filthy Rich wrote ...

You all do realize that this is just a Bush-Cheney-Haliburton conspiracy to discredit man-made global warming?

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 8:25 AM MADDOG wrote ...

I know how I feel about the problem. BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!! Oops I let out some greenhouse gas.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 6:47 AM PaulM wrote ...

This is crazy. You people are letting facts get in the way of how we are to feel about the problem.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 6:17 AM ijeff wrote ...

Let's see now. What have we learned so far in the age of Obama. Global warming science is a politically concocted scam and ACORN is a politically corrupt organization used by the Democrat party to steal elections. And to think that's just the start! Its a good day when the scammers (Al Gore) are beginning to be revealed as the real deniers as they have accused the opponents to their global warming consensus.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 1:21 AM John Gault wrote ...

Yet, there are some bloggers still defending the underlying "science". This, I think, is about to go viral on the internet, even MSM can't ignore it.

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Thursday, Dec 3 at 12:23 AM Allen wrote ...

Forging a trail for us is Jim Doyle. Pack your sandals Jim, and we will dive deep into our satellite cable packages to see if we can hear you comment on your states ground-breaking global warming agenda in Copenhagen Denmark

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