SO YOU WANT TO BE A TALK SHOW HOST....By Charlie SykesMy friend and colleague Christian Schneider forwards this interesting excerpt from an essay by David Foster Wallace on talk radio... which captures something that most critics miss. All I would add is the difficulty of talking without the normal feedback; the human reactions that are so much a part of conversation... eye contact, head nods, looks of puzzlement or amusement, even annoyance. Try having a regular conversation with a blank wall instead of a person and you get the idea. That's one of the reasons you will hear hosts interacting with their producers so much; even though there may be thousands of people listening, there is still the need to have a single human being present and responsive. "To appreciate these skills and some of the difficulties involved, you might wish to do an experiment. Try sitting alone in a room with a clock, turning on a tape recorder, and starting to speak into it. Speak about anything you want-with the proviso that your topic, and your opinions on it, must be of interest to some group of strangers who you imagine will be listening to the tape. Naturally, in order to be even minimally interesting, your remarks should be intelligible and their reasoning sequential -- a listener will have to be able to follow the logic of what you're saying-which means that you will have to know enough about your topic to organize your statements in a coherent way. (But you cannot do much of this organizing beforehand; it has to occur at the same time you're speaking.) "Plus, ideally, what you're saying should be not just comprehensible and interesting but compelling, stimulating, which means that your remarks have to provoke and sustain some kind of emotional reaction in the listeners, which in turn will require you to construct some kind of identifiable persona for yourself-your comments will need to strike the listener as coming from an actual human being, someone with a real personality and real feelings about whatever it is you're discussing. And it gets even trickier: You're trying to communicate in real time with someone you cannot see or hear responses from; and though you're communicating in speech, your remarks cannot have any of the fragmentary, repetitive, garbled qualities of real interhuman speech, or speech's ticcy unconscious "umm"s or "you know"s, or false starts or stutters or long pauses while you try to think of how to phrase what you want to say next. "You're also, of course, denied the physical inflections that are so much a part of spoken English -- the facial expressions, changes in posture, and symphony of little gestures that accompany and buttress real talking. Everything unspoken about you, your topic, and how you feel about it has to be conveyed through pitch, volume, tone, and pacing. The pacing is "So then, ready: go."
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Monday, Nov 2 at 7:59 PM steve wrote ...
reading word for word the latest email from scott walker or david clark can kill a lot of that air time you're trying to fill. but i agree working in that setting can be disorienting. that's probably why you call a show that starts at 8:30 a.m. "mid-day."
31490816 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 6:30 PM btycrkr to fevah wrote ...
Nope, you've said quite enough! And poorly, I might add! feva, flair, zenia, f; no matter how many of you live in the same body, you don't have enough brain among you to equal any conservative. And you're not fit to wipe Reagan's butt!
31487791 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 6:05 PM Fevah wrote ...
lets not forget the other talk show skills:ridiculing minorities,hoarding resources for fat white bald CEOs,destroying the environment,denying women the right to choose,screening freedom loving Democrats from their talkshow,kissing reagan's ass,lie about Obama, prop up the failed bush presidency. Need I say more?
31486804 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 4:43 PM Anonymous wrote ...
@irrational observer - "What is so hard about reading the e-mail "talking point" e-mail which the Republican Party sends out every day and then working through it for two or three hours?" Actually it is much more difficult in light of the scary, but comical, DNC e-mail put out by the likes of Nanny State Pelosi, Begala, and the hilarious James Carville. It truly revealing to read one and observe how ignorant they take the average Dem to be.
31483076 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 3:56 PM John H to Bob wrote ...
So you do get it and agree that the shows are basically the right is right the left is wrong, maybe entertaining at times, even informative, but that is the premise and the only premise, and it only took you most of one day to figure that out.
31480634 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 3:33 PM Ted wrote ...
Charlie, I liked your insight into this, what you wrote. You should write more of your own stuff, seriously.
31479184 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 12:54 PM Bob to John wrote ...
John I do get it. The thing is the right can put the thoughts into context, and show examples of where the left's policies have failed. The left can't do talk radio because if they have to start working from facts they immediately lose the battle because the facts are against them.
31471181 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 11:47 AM JPH to Jeff wrote ...
Isn't Coast to Coast the most interesting radio around today?
31467257 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 11:36 AM MADDOG to JEFF wrote ...
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The only garbage I've been hearing (or reading) lately is the liberal crap being spewed by so called intelligent higher & mightier than thou people.
31466606 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 11:30 AM Tom McMahon wrote ...
The dynamic of talking with no response also applies, say, after Grandma has a stroke and can't talk. It's unnatural to talk when the person you're talking to cannot talk back, but it's a skill that can be learned with a little time and patience and a willingness to confront the feeling of awkwardness for a short time. It's really too bad most people can never overcome that hump.
31466309 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 11:22 AM Jeff wrote ...
MADDOG the same goes for you. Next time try thinking before you post your garbage.
31465892 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 11:19 AM Jeff wrote ...
Yes Jenni I read his blog, that doesn't mean I listen to the radio show, and I don't. I listen to Bob and Brian in the morning. I enjoy a good laugh to start my day. The only thing that I listen to on TMJ is sports, Dennis Miller now and then and Michael Savage before I tune into Coast to Coast on WISN. Just thought I would spell it out for you, you seem to need help with simple logic.
31465707 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 9:05 AM John H to Bo wrote ...
Bob you simply don't get it. Talking about Maine, Alaska, movies, etc it always comes down to Right vs Left, and those comments are always the same. Those on the right are never wrong and those on the left are always wrong. You can spin it 6 ways from Saturday but that is the bottom line. Rush Limbauh has been doing it for 20 years and he is so talkative at times he rarely has time to take a call. I assume the Maine problem was the fault of a liberal, assuming there is a problem.
31458319 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 6:42 AM MADDOG wrote ...
Yeah he tuned out that's why he has a post.
31452394 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 6:31 AM jenni to jeff wrote ...
Apparently not.
31452054 Flag for moderationMonday, Nov 2 at 12:28 AM Jeff wrote ...
Easy no, but the format of all right wing all the time has gotten stale. TMJ alone has over 80 hours per week of virtually the same thing. I for one have all but tuned out.
31446584 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 9:54 PM Bob to John wrote ...
John, It would take about 30 seconds to say "House Resolution xxx" is a piece of liberal crap. Ten you only have 3 hours 29 minutes and 30 seconds to fill. It's the "why it's a piece of crap" that is the context. The news told us a few weeks ago that Maine was one of the states the House stated as an example of the lack of competition for health care. Charlie told us (and gave references) that it became that way after their "health care reform" drove out most of their insurers. That's context.
31441464 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 8:14 PM Steve Austin wrote ...
This is a good article. Talk radio done well looks easy but it is crazy hard. You can apply this same situation to shock jocks as well. When Howard Stern took off 20-years ago, many stations around the country put on guys who would basically spend three hours talking about beer, breasts and sex. And most were really bad and their ratings reflected it. But people thought Stern's act would be easy to reproduce and it wasn't. Same with talk radio.
31437442 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 7:21 PM John to Bob wrote ...
Then exactly what is the other topic? Other than trumping Scott Walker and perhaps a local story that may take precedent, what else do they talk about?
31435402 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 5:56 PM RxFire wrote ...
So the Republican party is sending out talking points complaining about RINOs and Reps spending like crazy... Riigghhtt..... Of course I can't help but wonder how often we heard the word "gravitas" from the MSM when Cheney was picked as VP...
31431394 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 5:21 PM jenni to Doug wrote ...
Well, Charlie keeps the likes of (ir)rational observer coming back for more.
31429469 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 4:22 PM Doug wrote ...
After listening to Charlie for years, I can say, no way is he following a script sent out by the GOP. I think he is his own man and picks his topics that will garner response. Its not all politics, although primarily. Obviously, those who are shooting off their mouths haven't really listened to his show.
31426552 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 3:45 PM Rational Observer wrote ...
What is so hard about reading the e-mail "talking point" e-mail which the Republican Party sends out every day and then working through it for two or three hours? Add in the fawning over whatever nuance one of the wingnut bloggers has come up with? This is the Charlie Sykes and Jay Weber script and it plays out over and over, day after day, week after week roughly 250 days each year.
31424562 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 2:43 PM Bob in Zion wrote ...
John, I'd suggest you give it a try before you brush it off as so easy. First, if your topic every day is "Right good, left bad", with no context you'll last about two hours before the producer replaces you with Enzite commericals for the rest of your time.
31422339 Flag for moderationSunday, Nov 1 at 12:20 PM John H wrote ...
That is what radio is, talking not kowing if anyone is listening. It is that way for DJ's sports announcers etc. Sounds like talk show hosts now must play a victim card so we can "appreicate how tough" they have it. What is so tough about saying conservatives are good and liberals are bad day in and day out. It is not like they need a new script every day. They get phone calls, they talk to their producers, then can walk down the hall during breaks. It is not like they are locked in a cave.
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