TUESDAY HOT READ: WALKER VS. NEUMANNBy Charlie SykesThe first face to face interview with yours truly and Marc Eisen is in the new Wisconsin Interest. Scott Walker got in first; Mark Neumann just made it official. Walker, a former Republican legislator who has been elected county executive three times in heavily Democratic Milwaukee County announced earlier this year that he is running for governor in 2010. Neumann, who served two terms in Congress (from 1995 to 1999) and has since run a successful home building business, The Neumann Companies, jumped into the race on July 1. Incumbent Jim Doyle has been elected twice, but in mid-June a national Democratic pollster reported that Doyle’s approval rating had fallen to 34%, even in a sample of voters who gave high marks to other Democrats, including President Obama. Not surprisingly, the 2010 contest is expected to be one of the most hotly contested in the country, and Republicans now appear poised to have a lively primary contest among two widely known conservatives. In late May, Walker, 41, and Neumann, 55, sat down with us in the Hartland offices of the Wisconsin Policy Research Institute. Both men shared sharp criticism of Doyle’s economic stewardship and tax policy; both pledged not to raise taxes. But differences emerged as well, including on whether recent Republican setbacks could be blamed on the wrong messenger or whether the party needed to change its message as well. Walker stressed his fiscal prudence in running a county government, while Neumann emphasized his business experience as a homebuilder and touted his “green” agenda. Below is an edited partial transcript. The complete interview was taped and will be podcast on the WPRI website. GOP hopefuls meet for first time, critique Jim Doyle’s tenure, make their cases to be governor. |
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Wednesday, Jul 15 at 11:40 AM smkeguy wrote ...
ok, so, why doesn't walker use 2002 numbers when he proposes his new budgets every year? if walker is pure on the issue of taxes and spending, his 2010 budget should be based on 2002 budget numbers and the 2002 tax levy.
26122434 Flag for moderationWednesday, Jul 15 at 8:22 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Joyce - It's also important to note that Walker only got 98k votes in his last election. In contrast, Gwen Moore got over 222k votes with a weak challenger, and that's only part of the county. Spring elections are a lot different than those in Nov.
26107324 Flag for moderationWednesday, Jul 15 at 8:18 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Joyce - The Green/Doyle election, just like the Gard/Kagan election, and so many others around the state was influenced by larger external circumstances. Republicans had no message, and even less support then.
26107042 Flag for moderationWednesday, Jul 15 at 8:10 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Homey - Is anyone who disagrees with the notion that Walker should be Gov a Neumann plant? I just call it like I see it. I've lived in Milwaukee my whole life, so it's not like I'm unfamiliar with Walker.
26106521 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 9:37 PM Seinfeld wrote ...
Hello, Neumann... now go away and stop screwing up my life...
26083146 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 9:34 PM Homey2 wrote ...
I think Fielderfan is a plant(or Neumann himself?) to drum up support for Neumann to create a damaging Primary battle for both of them - please drop out, Neumann, for the good of everybody in Wisconsin.
26083029 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 9:17 PM Homey wrote ...
Screw Neumann and his "green" agenda - sounds like a DEM/LIB to me - get out now, Neumann! - though you could still run against Baldwin in Dane County where the "green" S*** might work...
26082229 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 9:12 PM Dane Co pipes in... wrote ...
MKE boy: Don't be naive; you don't think Newmann will benefit from creating these green jobs & Al Gore won't benefit from Cap & Trade....its the same old story. If Scott doesn't expose it; Doyle surely will & will get re-elected on it.
26081924 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 8:09 PM Jordan wrote ...
"The board is doing his dirty work" please u imbecile... The board is mostly a bunch of clueless hack loser politicians...led by the corner 2 bit hustler himself, Lee Holloway. Hey dude, Give me pmt for a prop I never give you title to...
26078847 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 7:58 PM Joyce wrote ...
Walker is electable in Dem-stronghold, Milw County. Neumann is not. Do you really want to repeat the Mark Green/Doyle election? I didn't like those results...how about you?
26078306 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 4:37 PM Calvin wrote ...
"What person would enter a race just because someone says they should?" Someone with a huge ego.
26068102 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 3:17 PM not so fast Calvin wrote ...
CALVIN: 7 balanced budgets without tax increases? Walker always bases his latest budget on what the county board did the previous year (after the budget overides.) The board is doing his dirty work. If he was serious, hed always start with 2002 #'s
26062884 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:26 PM FielderFan wrote ...
Calvin: Honestly, what person would enter a race just because someone says they should? It's a huge personal decision. I haven't run for anything, but from the campaigns I've volunteered on, campaigning doesn't look like a pleasure cruise.
26059302 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:24 PM FielderFan wrote ...
Calvin: Retirement? I don't think building a business is retirement by any means. Some people don't take politics as their life-long calling or career. Some take a break, get back to the real world. How else do you build perspective and experience?
26059052 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:22 PM Calvin wrote ...
And FielderFan, I think Neumann's wrong reason to enter the race is because he's doing it at the request of Jim Klauser. Not because he was interested in it. And hey...he'll get some advertising for his home business too.
26058876 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:18 PM Calvin wrote ...
The same people that think Walker supporters think "It's Walker's time" are the same ones that think we should bow down to Neumann now that he decided to come out of retirement.I'll take someone that submitted 7 budgets with zero tax increase. Thx.
26058442 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:18 PM time for a change wrote ...
OK, no more professional politicians, ok? i'm sick and tired of politicians building there careers on taxpayers. scottwalker hasn't done too bad, but if he hasn't been able to fix milwaukee county, how can he fix the state? Neumann has my vote.
26058376 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:09 PM FielderFan wrote ...
Mary - I don't think anyone loathes Walker. He's a fine politician. The discussion is over who would be better. Walker would make an excellent Lieutenant Governor with Neumann, then go on to Governor, Congress, Sen, or whatever he wants.
26057724 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:07 PM Mary wrote ...
Why do you loathe Walker? I live in Tosa and think he has done exactly the job that we elected him to do. I know him personally and have never met a more ethical man! We got crazy electing Sullivan over Reynolds - let's not make another mistake!
26057504 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 2:06 PM FielderFan wrote ...
Retire Doyle: While I almost never would use them as a source, I can see where the point can be made: http://www.wisdems.org/free_details.asp?id=56
26057456 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 1:55 PM RetireDoyle wrote ...
Shortstop...Walker has not changed his position on the Stimulus money. http://tinyurl.com/m9qn3m He has provided great leadership on the issue and has been proven 100% correct!
26056597 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 1:47 PM MKE boy wrote ...
in reply to dane co -- neumann is good at creating jobs and even belling said he was a budgetary genius. WI is in need of a budgetary genius. how is being good at something a conflict of interest.
26055979 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 1:39 PM Shortstop wrote ...
Walker got his pat on the back with his "I will not accept stimulus money" WSJ piece. Then he accepted the stimulus money. It's not just a flip-flop. It's stupid strategy, bad planning, duplicitous. Political. This is the conservative leader in WI?
26055439 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 1:23 PM Dane Co pipes in... wrote ...
Maybe its just me, but follow the money..... Newmann wants to bring "green" jobs to the state and he is president of a "green" construction company? Sounds like a conflict of interest to me. Walker all the way!
26054231 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 1:09 PM FielderFan wrote ...
Anonymous - That's an interesting point. I think a follow up interview, maybe on all user-generated questions would be important! YouTube of something?
26053191 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 1:07 PM FielderFan wrote ...
Great Quote - I listened to it online earlier, now just re-read it again. The later part of the quote is important: "They know what they’re doing. They’ve been around and understand the issues better than anybody at the state."
26053062 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:59 PM Anonymous wrote ...
The only spending cuts proposed by these two was to start again sending prisoners out of the state. I sorry, you don't win with nothing. Why didn't they explain their exact differences, with specific cuts, from the last budget.
26052479 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:54 PM Great Quote From Neumann wrote ...
Ummmm, the source is the interview that this post is about. So, FielderFan, you are here commenting about it and you haven't even read it? Or do you just blindly go about and praise Neumann? Nice.
26052164 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:51 PM MADDOG wrote ...
I'd just be happy if they would leave me alone and stop taxing the ever lovin hell outta me.
26051961 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:50 PM FielderFan wrote ...
@ Great Quote - What would an adequate response have been? "I'm too smart to run these towns?" It seems like it was a loaded question, or taken out of context. I don't know the source, so I cant go much more beyond that.
26051911 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:47 PM Great Quote From Neumann wrote ...
Note....I didn't say he SHOULD tell them how to run local government. All I'm saying is that he should at least be smart enough to do it. Although, it is nice that he recognizes it and shares the fact that he isn't.
26051691 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:34 PM FielderFan wrote ...
@Great Quote - God save us all if we have a governor who wants to come in try and tell local governments how they should run. A better governor would be one that lets them do things how their residents see fit, other than times of emergency.
26050669 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:27 PM Great Quote From Neumann wrote ...
Neumann: "I’m not sure I’m smart enough to tell our local people how to run their own government." Have you met the people in some of these Governments??? I don't think it's asking too much for our Governor to be "smart enough" to guide local govt.
26050264 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:03 PM RetireDoyle wrote ...
And while it's all well and good to be "green", it's not going to help Neumann in a primary. It would help in a general election. Creating and selling a "green" home isn't much of a winning biography in a GOP race. Just sayin'.
26048681 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 12:00 PM RetireDoyle wrote ...
Did anyone actually read the transcript? Walker/Neumann are almost identical on all issues.But I think Walker is the one that can actually bring Mke County votes.That's critical in winning this race.Neumann has been gone for too long.
26048471 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 11:55 AM To Selling Ice, wrote ...
I think The Dems are missing in your analogy. They would be giving the ice away and touting it as a way to combat global warming.
26048016 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 11:10 AM FielderFan wrote ...
bajaskier - That's absurd. You're telling me that if they were able to develop a formula to make ethanol a more viable and cost-effective option, you'd still be opposed? Why would you rule out something that's still being researched? foolish.
26044414 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 11:08 AM bajaskier wrote ...
Neumann has no problems with ethanol and refused to rule it out...he just doesn't get it. Walker needs to drive home this point.
26044239 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 11:07 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Selling Ice -- I'll take the guy who doesn't need a team of advisers to come up with a strategy to get the job done. You know... real world experience.
26044182 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 11:06 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Sal - What are you talking about? I've never read or heard him preach the global warming rhetoric. I just looked at his campaign site again, pretty straight forward - reduce dependence on foreign oil. Is that a bad thing? Not in my book.
26044072 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 11:05 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The one who's prices are lower.
26043994 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:59 AM selling ice wrote ...
Two guys are selling ice on a hot day. The guy on the right tells people how stupid they are if they don't buy his ice, the guy on the left tells people how cold it will make their beer. Who sells more ice?
26043539 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:59 AM sal wrote ...
The new Republicans, the party of the four G's; God, Guns, Gays and the new G- GREEN. Neumann better sit down with Charlie and J Ott and get a talking to about the global warning conspiracy.
26043504 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:31 AM mystified wrote ...
R.J., you have anything to say?
26041344 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:30 AM Newt Gingrich wrote ...
I'm Newt Gingrich and I DO NOT support this Candidate!
26041222 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:28 AM lie detector wrote ...
Mark Neumann is not a moderate, he's the same conservative that has always fought passionately for limited government, balanced budgets and life. Walker's camp has been spreading lies, like telling Gingrich there was no primary before he came. SLAP
26041004 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:27 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Calvin: How does being a lifelong politician better suit you for beating another life long politician? It seems like a stark contrast is what people want, and I think a good private and public sector record is need. Not one or the other.
26040982 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:25 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Calvin: If Neumann is in it for the wrong reasons, what are those reasons, and more importantly, what is the right reason for Walker? Is it the same reasoning he had during his last bid at governor?
26040816 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:24 AM FielderFan wrote ...
I'm not finding much about Neumann being this "ethanol monster," I've only found this: http://is.gd/1yD02 ... If it's proven to be economically viable, and no mandates... whats the problem? If it's not proven... then it's a non-issue.
26040712 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:24 AM mke outsider wrote ...
to CALVIN: right, former Walker guy. lots of former walker guys out there.
26040684 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:23 AM Calvin wrote ...
No,FielderFan.I'm a Walker supporter because I think he is most qualified and best suited to beat Jim Doyle.That's what this is all about,isn't it?Kind of hard to give all the reasons in this small box.I think Neumann is in it for the wrong reasons
26040609 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:16 AM Calvin wrote ...
TRUTH be TOLD. NO! A former Walker guy...but Klauser is the puppet master behind the Neumann campaign. Neumann...pro ethanol and 2nd choice sockpuppet (Graber said no) for Klauser.
26040039 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:14 AM FielderFan wrote ...
Calvin, you present no case whatsoever regarding Neumann. Based on your thoughts, my guess is that you're part of the "it's Walker's time" camp. I'd like to see a case for why Neumann wouldn't be a good candidate. He seems to have the skills IMHO
26039931 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:11 AM TRUTH be TOLD wrote ...
A "Walker guy" is also on Jimmy Doyle's "business council," no?
26039694 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:07 AM Shane, Wauwatosa wrote ...
Pretty slim pickings all around. I loathe both Walker and Doyle and would vote for Neumann as the lesser of evils against both of them.
26039377 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 10:01 AM MADDOG wrote ...
I don't trust Neumann. I believe he is PRO Ethanol. Also I believe he is moderate. A bad combination : Moderate Conservative. That is why republicans do not fare well.
26038799 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 9:35 AM Mombo Napoliano wrote ...
The same guy that is one of Nuemann's managers is fronting "Disingenuous" Jimmy Doyle's new "business council". Also known as Jimmy's new play for pay scheme.
26036654 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 7:50 AM Hank wrote ...
Yes, W.C. Walker is so far to the right he could never win in a democratic stronghold like Milwaukee county. Oh wait, he's won there three times, with increasing margins of victory each time. I guess that makes W.C. a troll.
26028936 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 7:29 AM MADDOG wrote ...
Walker for Governor 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
26027414 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 7:05 AM Calvin wrote ...
Waukesha County...WHAT are you talking about??? There is NO way that Neumann is "a bit more to the center". You obviously don't know these anything about these two. Walker is the best candidate to take on Doyle. Neumann should go sell houses.
26025954 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 6:08 AM R.J. wrote ...
I like Neumann's Polo shirt and tie. Yes, in light of that I think he's more prepared to be governor.
26022711 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 6:07 AM Hello to WC wrote ...
You are nuts and obviously voting for Doyle
26022622 Flag for moderationTuesday, Jul 14 at 3:42 AM Waukesha County wrote ...
I would think about voting for Mark Neumann but I would never vote for Scott Walker. Walker is way to far right and has little chance of getting elected, Neumann is a bit more to the center and could get elected.
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