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STICKING IT TO THE KIDSBy Charlie SykesYou'll remember our discussion of the "Nobody says a word or the kids get it" memo.,. Well, Fred Kessler and other Democrats made good on their threat to whack school choice, a move that could result in hundreds of kids being kicked out of school. The strategy of (a) standing down and (b) "trusting" Democrats like Lena Taylor to work out a fair compromise has crashed and burned. Exit questions: does Howard Fuller still trust his Democratic friends? Does he still think it's a bad idea for choice supporters to call their legislators? Come to Madison? Raise Hell? ** Scott Walker minces no words: Fred Kessler and anyone in the State Assembly who votes for his motion |
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Monday, Jun 15 at 6:30 PM Andy wrote ...
Scott Walker, You have our support. Any conservative candidate running in 10 should ride in on our conservative's coat tails. Just like the liberals did for the one!
24882996 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 7:37 AM engineer wrote ...
NO WEAC MEANS SUCCESFUL SCHOOLS>>>>VERY SIMPLE!!!
24882991 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 7:36 AM engineer wrote ...
Private school has my son...2nd grade mastered add/sub/mult/div/. Big Problem with no one left behind useless public school agenda/studies?...yes big time.
24882986 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 6:25 AM @ That One con't wrote ...
In addition to us paying for private school (and taxes for public), the spouse is a substitute teacher for the public schools. Our 3rd grader mastered math concepts this year that the 5th graders in the public schools were struggling with. Also the Special Ed thing is mostly a red herring. Private schools take a lot of kids labeled "disadvantaged" and with "special needs" like ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, and behavior problems. They just expect them to succeed - and almost all of them do.
24882981 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 6:20 AM @ That One wrote ...
Actually the religious schools do have standardized testing, they just take different tests - like the Stanford Achievement Test or Iowa - than the public schools. The public school test is actually easier, so if you are looking at raw data your conclusion is flawed. My kids go to parochial school - our elementary school just scored in the 93rd percentile or higher in every grade compared to all who took the test nationally.
24882976 Flag for moderationSunday, Jun 14 at 1:58 PM conservative wrote ...
to continue, in President Obama's defense he "flip flopped" his decision on this matter, (after pressure) when he realized there were many angry families that don't want to leave this school. Well these kids will be "Grandfathered in", but after these kids the school choice stops. With Obama's kids in a private school, but he wants to take school choice away, the only conclusion I come to is The Teacher's Union is more important than the kids!
24882971 Flag for moderationSunday, Jun 14 at 1:50 PM conservative wrote ...
I'M just echoing the same thought Phil had June 12, 11:25 P.M. Sykes had a story a couple of months ago where President Obama was going to take school choice away from several thousand students in the D.C. area, the same school his kids are going. I said back then and still do, if you are a supporter of public schools, then you should be a model for others and show that your kids will receive an excellent education there. Obama isn't showing that support. That's pretty telling to me!!
24882966 Flag for moderationSunday, Jun 14 at 5:50 AM That One to AM wrote ...
No, it's wrong to divert public money for a program that produces worse results on math, comparable results on reading while simultaneously enabling these schools to deny education for high cost special needs students and others they deem unworthy. AM, what is so wrong with requiring a teacher to have a college degree? What is so wrong with allowing taxpayers to see how the money is spent? What is so wrong with having voucher students take standardized tests?
24882961 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 10:35 PM @That One wrote ...
So, T.O., you're saying it's wrong on principle for the Government to spend less for the same results? If that isn't a typical Liberal response, I don't know a better example!... (I don't necessarily believe your stats, by the way)
24882956 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 7:28 PM That One wrote ...
AM, you are the prime example of what is wrong...vouchers were sold as providing competition, providing better results...blah blah blah...now the bait and switch argument is that it is cheaper. What it really is a backdoor way to provide tax money to religious schools who have no accountability and no need to follow federal education guidelines nor educate special ed kids. Why doesn't the WMC fund vouchers?
24882951 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 5:58 AM @ that one wrote ...
Why don't you try to sell that hooey to the parents and kids of those in the choice program. Also, how can the vouchers be a higher expense when the voucher is $6000 and the cost of an MPS kid is $13000. Just for giggles, lets say your assertion is true and there is no difference in the educational outcome (of which there is conflicting info). On pure economic grounds, wouldn't it make sense to send more kids to the choice schools to save money to the tune of $7000 per kid?
24882946 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 5:34 AM Dragondazin @ theone wrote ...
I tell you what why don't we see what the % of graduated criminals (by graduated I mean as a career choice not academically speaking) between the mps and choice schools I'll bet those numbers would tell a whole different story.
24882941 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 5:23 AM That One wrote ...
I know I am a broken record on this issue, but the data shows that choice schools do no better than MPS and actually worse on math. Why should the taxpayers divert money to schools that perform worse, have no accountability and siphon money and students from a district that obviously has problems, but in which the "cure" (vouchers) actually is no cure at all?
24882936 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:25 PM Phil wrote ...
If public schools are so great why don't the over lords send there kids to these schools?? I know it's NOT good enough for there kids but it's good enough for your kids because your kids arn't as special as ours.
24882931 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:53 PM Dragondazin @ bigcrat wrote ...
I Haven't ever said you were a plant by the right! Although I have said you were totally clueless about your liberal support for things that are just plain STUPID. You can say get over it we won. However, You also have to realize that your patriotic dissent is also patriotic for us! We do not have to kill each other in disagreement, just that our beliefs are different. with that said, how do you justify the way fred kessler is going about this? I await a sensible answer.
24882926 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:47 PM WI school stats wrote ...
Actually - WI schools aren't "the best in the nation" anymore. Depending on the survey/methodology, year, and the school level (elem, middle, high) WI is now anywhere from the high single digits (8 or 9) to the low-to-middle 20s.
24882921 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 2:41 PM Renee wrote ...
The libs in Madistan just can't help themselves to ruin the education of Milwaukee kids.They know that they have the perfect storm because these kids can't speak for themselves.I took my kids out of MPS because the staff always felt "like they couldn't be bothererd." Look what Terry Falk said about Rufus King? Eliitst? OMG, I see these poorer kids in the neighborhood who happen to have parents who make them study get on the Rufus King bus in the morning. They don't want anyone to succeed.
24882916 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 11:32 AM George A. Mitchell wrote ...
Census data show that urban public school teachers, including in Milw, choose private schools at about 3 times the rate for the rest of the population. A UW-Milw survey of MPS teachers in the late 80s found that nearly 2/3 would not want their child to attend the school where they teach. Yet the applaud it when Fred Kessler, who sent one of his children to University School, want to suffocate choice for low-income families.
24882911 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:54 AM It's Clear wrote ...
Unamious comments. No solutions, just name calling. 3 questions: Why should Choice schools have to take the Standardized test? Why shoudn't the teachers be at least certified? Why aren't they required to take all students, (Special Ed) that want to go there?
24882906 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:31 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The trickle down theory works for all agendas. When the people on top (paying for everything) get sick of it they will stop working and their poverty will roll down to all the hands that are held out.
24882901 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:29 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The problem with liberals is they are being bent over right along with all of us. Only they are either too stupid or too ignorant (self imposed ignorance by the way)to know it. And they are cheering on this guy like he's hurting only conservatives. Wise up people. We are all getting it in the shorts. Liberals , Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives. All of us.
24882896 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:22 AM RUSSw wrote ...
When backed into a corner where a liberal has to make a real, believable fact or argument, they call foul, hate, race card,race baiting and go babbling into the night, only they don'y realize it.Being smug just shows how much of a fool they are.
24882891 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:07 AM Walt to bigcat wrote ...
“Spout hate”?????? Liberals are the only people I know who when faced with a few factual statements can label the person who made those statements as hate speech. If you can’t argue your case you just call it a joke, hate speech or that the other person is over reacting and you can just move on. I am so glad that conservatives have finally found their voice and decided to fight back because this is going to be so easy since liberals still haven’t rewritten their play book from 20 years ago.
24882886 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:02 AM jenni wrote ...
Bigcat: Still awaiting your reply. Do you consider yourself above me? Why do you hate the fact that I was able to get a decent education and a degree? Is your local Burger King short of counter people? I'm only kidding a little. It does seem that union apologists want to keep us down so we swallow their crap without question.
24882881 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:31 AM Shelly wrote ...
BIGCAT, you had you're 8 years, you should rest now. I mean even Obama, I mean Jesus, rested.
24882876 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:29 AM btycrkr to kitty wrote ...
Now you're gettin' it!! WE ARE RIGHT! Just go with that!
24882871 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:21 AM BIGCAT wrote ...
Walt's right, poverty is the fault of city families w/no effect on school. Jenni and Russ are right.It is the union's fault that MPS is failing while hundreds of other public schools are succeeding. Btycrkr,Shelly and Dragon,you are right,I am a right wing plant hired by Charlie to drum up website hits.I am paid in 2012 Palin for President bumperstickers.Unions are evil,taxes are evil,dems are evil,Obama is evil, MPS is evil.Wow,it is really easy to be a GOP blogger. Spout hate and wait 8 years
24882866 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:12 AM btycrkr to kitty wrote ...
I think you've forgotten that we pay for breakfast AND lunch for MPS students. I would think their parental units could supply 1 meal per day. Perhaps if they gave up their cigarettes, cell phones, rims, and lottery tickets, they could provide more meals for THEIR kids.
24882861 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:57 AM jenni to Dan wrote ...
I've actually been considering starting a blog.I suppose I'm a bit of a one trick pony because school choice is my passion and I spend a lot of time AND money trying to keep that in play. I look around my old neighborhood and see kids I grew up with graduating from MPS unable to read or constuct a cohesive argument to support their views, if they have any views, and thank God every single day that I am not one of them.
24882856 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:36 AM Walt to Shelly wrote ...
You know the more you think of it you may be right. I mean really, what kind of idiot could post some of the claptrap that bigcat can. WOW! What an eye opener, I think I’ll e-mail Charlie and tell him he has be found out.
24882851 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:35 AM Elmer Fudd wrote ...
So George W* isn't the only one standing in the schoolhouse door. He has Fred Kessler and the assembly dummycrats standing with him. *Wallace
24882846 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:33 AM RUSSw wrote ...
Hey BigCat (?) spend some time in the schools, with the kids.The kids put down the students who get the "A's" because they are acting white.The amount of teachers' education means nothing when the teachers union call the shots.The schools are failing because the teachers are for the teachers, and they don't give a rats behind about the kids.Some teachers are dedicated to the kids, but most are governed by their own greed.
24882841 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:30 AM Walt to bigcat wrote ...
You might want to get a revised playbook; even some of the inner city leaders have recognized the total failure of bussing kids out of their school districts. What school loyalty can exist for a school that is 20 miles away from your neighborhood? You are such a WEAC underling that I sometimes wonder if it’s even worth responding to you but I guess I am just a glutton for punishment. At least you’ve hit all the usual talking points lack of sleep, FOOD and poverty.
24882836 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:20 AM Shelly wrote ...
OK, I think I have finally figured this out. BIGCAT is actually Charlie throwing up far left ideo-illogical view points to create activity on his blog. It must be, because could anyone possibly be that drunk on the Democrat kool-aid? Great idea Charlie!
24882831 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:19 AM MADDOG wrote ...
NO BIGCAT They're not. Thanks Walt. I thought I heard that. Funny thing is I only heard it once. Hmmmmmmm I wonder why?
24882826 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:07 AM BIGCAT wrote ...
Have any of you looked at Wisconsin schools as a whole lately? They are some of the best in the nation. MPS isn't dysfunctional b/c of the unions or staff. It is dysfunctional due to the poverty of its students. If I don't know what I'm going to eat or where I'll sleep, how can I concentrate on school? Any problems with public schools like Nicolet or WFB? If you want to help city students, why did the burbs nearly riot when Ch. 220 busing started? If you cared about city kids, you'd expand 220.
24882821 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:58 AM Walt to MADDOG wrote ...
You did not hear wrong Bobby Jindal did go up against the teachers union, in fact even with the teachers union FULL support his liberal opponent could only get 30% of the vote to Jindal’s 54%. Louisiana was looking for a change and this time they picked a conservative and the positive results didn’t take long to show up in the inner cities. I wonder when Milwaukee’s inner city will get a clue.
24882816 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:53 AM MADDOG wrote ...
Thank you btycrkr absolutely.
24882811 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:52 AM Dragondazin wrote ...
Having standardized tests is not your agenda and you know it, It is a push to get the unions in take away individuality that allows these schools to excel. The reason choice schools exsist is because of (or lack thereof) performance issues. QUIT CHEWING THE UNION BUBBLEGUM!
24882806 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:49 AM Dave P. to Jenni wrote ...
Do you have your own blog? If not, you ought to start one. I'd visit it, and so would a lot of others here.
24882801 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:46 AM btycrkr wrote ...
To finish on MADDOG's thought, and not vote democrat any longer!
24882796 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:27 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The only way to fix MPS it to whack weac. And we all know that probably will not happen ....any time soon at least. ou know New Orleans , unless I heard wrong, axed their teachers union and the childrens test scores went UP significantly. But the liberals don't want that because that means the kids will have a clue.
24882791 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:27 AM Walt wrote ...
Has anyone noticed that liberals always seem to terrorize the innocent or helpless members of our society? They kill the “useless eaters” (their term, not mine) like Terri Schiavo, they support infanticide thinking nothing wrong with killing someone BEFORE a child takes their first breath and deprive inner city kids a quality education because the teachers union members would rather guarantee their retirement home in Arizona than to insure an educated minority kid gets a new start. Pathetic.
24882786 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:25 AM paul wrote ...
Bigcat, you claim the budget creams public schools.....but if you think for one minute that our schools will cut costs to make ends meet, you are whacked. Our local property taxes will go up to make up the difference. You support choice for women but not choice for schools. Dems and Libs are all the same. You are a fraud and a HYPOCRITE.
24882781 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:16 AM jenni wrote ...
Bigcat:Why do you hate me?Why does it bother you so much that I graduated in the top 5% of a real school instead of dodging bullets at Riverside or something? You and your stupid standardized test! Perhaps you should be outraged at the poor showing of MPS rather than outraged about kids being able to escape the mayhem. Fix MPS, if that is possible, and there will be no need for choice. Do you have kids? If so, do you plan to plant them in schools where teachers are not in control?
24882776 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:14 AM Jaye wrote ...
Well Big Cat, Private schools have worked with small budgets for years. This is not about their budget or qualified teachers and you know it, so stop pretending otherwise.
24882771 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:04 AM BIGCAT wrote ...
Public schools all over the state are getting creamed in this budget, but the choice program should remain untouched? expanded? There are a lot of great schools losing programs and staff. Choice vouchers are immune? Or is this just a smoke screen to hide your anger over this."Joint Finance Committee would require private schools in the program to give standardized tests and report the results, employ teachers who have at least bachelor's degrees and meet the same minimum hours of instruction."
24882766 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 5:59 AM Papa Z wrote ...
What a despicable act of cowardice.
24882761 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 7:37 AM engineer wrote ...
NO WEAC MEANS SUCCESFUL SCHOOLS>>>>VERY SIMPLE!!!
23811227 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 7:36 AM engineer wrote ...
Private school has my son...2nd grade mastered add/sub/mult/div/. Big Problem with no one left behind useless public school agenda/studies?...yes big time.
23811222 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 6:25 AM @ That One con't wrote ...
In addition to us paying for private school (and taxes for public), the spouse is a substitute teacher for the public schools. Our 3rd grader mastered math concepts this year that the 5th graders in the public schools were struggling with. Also the Special Ed thing is mostly a red herring. Private schools take a lot of kids labeled "disadvantaged" and with "special needs" like ADD/ADHD, dyslexia, and behavior problems. They just expect them to succeed - and almost all of them do.
23811217 Flag for moderationMonday, Jun 15 at 6:20 AM @ That One wrote ...
Actually the religious schools do have standardized testing, they just take different tests - like the Stanford Achievement Test or Iowa - than the public schools. The public school test is actually easier, so if you are looking at raw data your conclusion is flawed. My kids go to parochial school - our elementary school just scored in the 93rd percentile or higher in every grade compared to all who took the test nationally.
23811212 Flag for moderationSunday, Jun 14 at 1:58 PM conservative wrote ...
to continue, in President Obama's defense he "flip flopped" his decision on this matter, (after pressure) when he realized there were many angry families that don't want to leave this school. Well these kids will be "Grandfathered in", but after these kids the school choice stops. With Obama's kids in a private school, but he wants to take school choice away, the only conclusion I come to is The Teacher's Union is more important than the kids!
23811207 Flag for moderationSunday, Jun 14 at 1:50 PM conservative wrote ...
I'M just echoing the same thought Phil had June 12, 11:25 P.M. Sykes had a story a couple of months ago where President Obama was going to take school choice away from several thousand students in the D.C. area, the same school his kids are going. I said back then and still do, if you are a supporter of public schools, then you should be a model for others and show that your kids will receive an excellent education there. Obama isn't showing that support. That's pretty telling to me!!
23811202 Flag for moderationSunday, Jun 14 at 5:50 AM That One to AM wrote ...
No, it's wrong to divert public money for a program that produces worse results on math, comparable results on reading while simultaneously enabling these schools to deny education for high cost special needs students and others they deem unworthy. AM, what is so wrong with requiring a teacher to have a college degree? What is so wrong with allowing taxpayers to see how the money is spent? What is so wrong with having voucher students take standardized tests?
23811197 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 10:35 PM @That One wrote ...
So, T.O., you're saying it's wrong on principle for the Government to spend less for the same results? If that isn't a typical Liberal response, I don't know a better example!... (I don't necessarily believe your stats, by the way)
23811192 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 7:28 PM That One wrote ...
AM, you are the prime example of what is wrong...vouchers were sold as providing competition, providing better results...blah blah blah...now the bait and switch argument is that it is cheaper. What it really is a backdoor way to provide tax money to religious schools who have no accountability and no need to follow federal education guidelines nor educate special ed kids. Why doesn't the WMC fund vouchers?
23811187 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 5:58 AM @ that one wrote ...
Why don't you try to sell that hooey to the parents and kids of those in the choice program. Also, how can the vouchers be a higher expense when the voucher is $6000 and the cost of an MPS kid is $13000. Just for giggles, lets say your assertion is true and there is no difference in the educational outcome (of which there is conflicting info). On pure economic grounds, wouldn't it make sense to send more kids to the choice schools to save money to the tune of $7000 per kid?
23811182 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 5:34 AM Dragondazin @ theone wrote ...
I tell you what why don't we see what the % of graduated criminals (by graduated I mean as a career choice not academically speaking) between the mps and choice schools I'll bet those numbers would tell a whole different story.
23811177 Flag for moderationSaturday, Jun 13 at 5:23 AM That One wrote ...
I know I am a broken record on this issue, but the data shows that choice schools do no better than MPS and actually worse on math. Why should the taxpayers divert money to schools that perform worse, have no accountability and siphon money and students from a district that obviously has problems, but in which the "cure" (vouchers) actually is no cure at all?
23811172 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:25 PM Phil wrote ...
If public schools are so great why don't the over lords send there kids to these schools?? I know it's NOT good enough for there kids but it's good enough for your kids because your kids arn't as special as ours.
23811167 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:53 PM Dragondazin @ bigcrat wrote ...
I Haven't ever said you were a plant by the right! Although I have said you were totally clueless about your liberal support for things that are just plain STUPID. You can say get over it we won. However, You also have to realize that your patriotic dissent is also patriotic for us! We do not have to kill each other in disagreement, just that our beliefs are different. with that said, how do you justify the way fred kessler is going about this? I await a sensible answer.
23811162 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:47 PM WI school stats wrote ...
Actually - WI schools aren't "the best in the nation" anymore. Depending on the survey/methodology, year, and the school level (elem, middle, high) WI is now anywhere from the high single digits (8 or 9) to the low-to-middle 20s.
23811157 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 2:41 PM Renee wrote ...
The libs in Madistan just can't help themselves to ruin the education of Milwaukee kids.They know that they have the perfect storm because these kids can't speak for themselves.I took my kids out of MPS because the staff always felt "like they couldn't be bothererd." Look what Terry Falk said about Rufus King? Eliitst? OMG, I see these poorer kids in the neighborhood who happen to have parents who make them study get on the Rufus King bus in the morning. They don't want anyone to succeed.
23811152 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 11:32 AM George A. Mitchell wrote ...
Census data show that urban public school teachers, including in Milw, choose private schools at about 3 times the rate for the rest of the population. A UW-Milw survey of MPS teachers in the late 80s found that nearly 2/3 would not want their child to attend the school where they teach. Yet the applaud it when Fred Kessler, who sent one of his children to University School, want to suffocate choice for low-income families.
23811147 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:54 AM It's Clear wrote ...
Unamious comments. No solutions, just name calling. 3 questions: Why should Choice schools have to take the Standardized test? Why shoudn't the teachers be at least certified? Why aren't they required to take all students, (Special Ed) that want to go there?
23811142 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:31 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The trickle down theory works for all agendas. When the people on top (paying for everything) get sick of it they will stop working and their poverty will roll down to all the hands that are held out.
23811137 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:29 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The problem with liberals is they are being bent over right along with all of us. Only they are either too stupid or too ignorant (self imposed ignorance by the way)to know it. And they are cheering on this guy like he's hurting only conservatives. Wise up people. We are all getting it in the shorts. Liberals , Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives. All of us.
23811132 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:22 AM RUSSw wrote ...
When backed into a corner where a liberal has to make a real, believable fact or argument, they call foul, hate, race card,race baiting and go babbling into the night, only they don'y realize it.Being smug just shows how much of a fool they are.
23811127 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:07 AM Walt to bigcat wrote ...
“Spout hate”?????? Liberals are the only people I know who when faced with a few factual statements can label the person who made those statements as hate speech. If you can’t argue your case you just call it a joke, hate speech or that the other person is over reacting and you can just move on. I am so glad that conservatives have finally found their voice and decided to fight back because this is going to be so easy since liberals still haven’t rewritten their play book from 20 years ago.
23811122 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 9:02 AM jenni wrote ...
Bigcat: Still awaiting your reply. Do you consider yourself above me? Why do you hate the fact that I was able to get a decent education and a degree? Is your local Burger King short of counter people? I'm only kidding a little. It does seem that union apologists want to keep us down so we swallow their crap without question.
23811117 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:31 AM Shelly wrote ...
BIGCAT, you had you're 8 years, you should rest now. I mean even Obama, I mean Jesus, rested.
23811112 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:29 AM btycrkr to kitty wrote ...
Now you're gettin' it!! WE ARE RIGHT! Just go with that!
23811107 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:21 AM BIGCAT wrote ...
Walt's right, poverty is the fault of city families w/no effect on school. Jenni and Russ are right.It is the union's fault that MPS is failing while hundreds of other public schools are succeeding. Btycrkr,Shelly and Dragon,you are right,I am a right wing plant hired by Charlie to drum up website hits.I am paid in 2012 Palin for President bumperstickers.Unions are evil,taxes are evil,dems are evil,Obama is evil, MPS is evil.Wow,it is really easy to be a GOP blogger. Spout hate and wait 8 years
23811102 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 8:12 AM btycrkr to kitty wrote ...
I think you've forgotten that we pay for breakfast AND lunch for MPS students. I would think their parental units could supply 1 meal per day. Perhaps if they gave up their cigarettes, cell phones, rims, and lottery tickets, they could provide more meals for THEIR kids.
23811097 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:57 AM jenni to Dan wrote ...
I've actually been considering starting a blog.I suppose I'm a bit of a one trick pony because school choice is my passion and I spend a lot of time AND money trying to keep that in play. I look around my old neighborhood and see kids I grew up with graduating from MPS unable to read or constuct a cohesive argument to support their views, if they have any views, and thank God every single day that I am not one of them.
23811092 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:36 AM Walt to Shelly wrote ...
You know the more you think of it you may be right. I mean really, what kind of idiot could post some of the claptrap that bigcat can. WOW! What an eye opener, I think I’ll e-mail Charlie and tell him he has be found out.
23811087 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:35 AM Elmer Fudd wrote ...
So George W* isn't the only one standing in the schoolhouse door. He has Fred Kessler and the assembly dummycrats standing with him. *Wallace
23811082 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:33 AM RUSSw wrote ...
Hey BigCat (?) spend some time in the schools, with the kids.The kids put down the students who get the "A's" because they are acting white.The amount of teachers' education means nothing when the teachers union call the shots.The schools are failing because the teachers are for the teachers, and they don't give a rats behind about the kids.Some teachers are dedicated to the kids, but most are governed by their own greed.
23811077 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:30 AM Walt to bigcat wrote ...
You might want to get a revised playbook; even some of the inner city leaders have recognized the total failure of bussing kids out of their school districts. What school loyalty can exist for a school that is 20 miles away from your neighborhood? You are such a WEAC underling that I sometimes wonder if it’s even worth responding to you but I guess I am just a glutton for punishment. At least you’ve hit all the usual talking points lack of sleep, FOOD and poverty.
23811072 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:20 AM Shelly wrote ...
OK, I think I have finally figured this out. BIGCAT is actually Charlie throwing up far left ideo-illogical view points to create activity on his blog. It must be, because could anyone possibly be that drunk on the Democrat kool-aid? Great idea Charlie!
23811067 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:19 AM MADDOG wrote ...
NO BIGCAT They're not. Thanks Walt. I thought I heard that. Funny thing is I only heard it once. Hmmmmmmm I wonder why?
23811062 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 7:07 AM BIGCAT wrote ...
Have any of you looked at Wisconsin schools as a whole lately? They are some of the best in the nation. MPS isn't dysfunctional b/c of the unions or staff. It is dysfunctional due to the poverty of its students. If I don't know what I'm going to eat or where I'll sleep, how can I concentrate on school? Any problems with public schools like Nicolet or WFB? If you want to help city students, why did the burbs nearly riot when Ch. 220 busing started? If you cared about city kids, you'd expand 220.
23811057 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:58 AM Walt to MADDOG wrote ...
You did not hear wrong Bobby Jindal did go up against the teachers union, in fact even with the teachers union FULL support his liberal opponent could only get 30% of the vote to Jindal’s 54%. Louisiana was looking for a change and this time they picked a conservative and the positive results didn’t take long to show up in the inner cities. I wonder when Milwaukee’s inner city will get a clue.
23811052 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:53 AM MADDOG wrote ...
Thank you btycrkr absolutely.
23811047 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:52 AM Dragondazin wrote ...
Having standardized tests is not your agenda and you know it, It is a push to get the unions in take away individuality that allows these schools to excel. The reason choice schools exsist is because of (or lack thereof) performance issues. QUIT CHEWING THE UNION BUBBLEGUM!
23811042 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:49 AM Dave P. to Jenni wrote ...
Do you have your own blog? If not, you ought to start one. I'd visit it, and so would a lot of others here.
23811037 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:46 AM btycrkr wrote ...
To finish on MADDOG's thought, and not vote democrat any longer!
23811032 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:27 AM MADDOG wrote ...
The only way to fix MPS it to whack weac. And we all know that probably will not happen ....any time soon at least. ou know New Orleans , unless I heard wrong, axed their teachers union and the childrens test scores went UP significantly. But the liberals don't want that because that means the kids will have a clue.
23811027 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:27 AM Walt wrote ...
Has anyone noticed that liberals always seem to terrorize the innocent or helpless members of our society? They kill the “useless eaters” (their term, not mine) like Terri Schiavo, they support infanticide thinking nothing wrong with killing someone BEFORE a child takes their first breath and deprive inner city kids a quality education because the teachers union members would rather guarantee their retirement home in Arizona than to insure an educated minority kid gets a new start. Pathetic.
23811022 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:25 AM paul wrote ...
Bigcat, you claim the budget creams public schools.....but if you think for one minute that our schools will cut costs to make ends meet, you are whacked. Our local property taxes will go up to make up the difference. You support choice for women but not choice for schools. Dems and Libs are all the same. You are a fraud and a HYPOCRITE.
23811017 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:16 AM jenni wrote ...
Bigcat:Why do you hate me?Why does it bother you so much that I graduated in the top 5% of a real school instead of dodging bullets at Riverside or something? You and your stupid standardized test! Perhaps you should be outraged at the poor showing of MPS rather than outraged about kids being able to escape the mayhem. Fix MPS, if that is possible, and there will be no need for choice. Do you have kids? If so, do you plan to plant them in schools where teachers are not in control?
23811012 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:14 AM Jaye wrote ...
Well Big Cat, Private schools have worked with small budgets for years. This is not about their budget or qualified teachers and you know it, so stop pretending otherwise.
23811007 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 6:04 AM BIGCAT wrote ...
Public schools all over the state are getting creamed in this budget, but the choice program should remain untouched? expanded? There are a lot of great schools losing programs and staff. Choice vouchers are immune? Or is this just a smoke screen to hide your anger over this."Joint Finance Committee would require private schools in the program to give standardized tests and report the results, employ teachers who have at least bachelor's degrees and meet the same minimum hours of instruction."
23811002 Flag for moderationFriday, Jun 12 at 5:59 AM Papa Z wrote ...
What a despicable act of cowardice.
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