Story Created:
Jul 22, 2008
Story Updated:
Jul 22, 2008
In their unrelenting campaign to portray conservatives as bigots a few local lefty bloggers are arguing that the use of the term "thug" is, in fact, a racial epithet -- in fact the equivalent of the n-word.
Rick Esenberg does as masterful job of deconstructing the heavy-breathing:
In the mean time, there has been recent discussion around Milwaukee about whether use of the word "thug" to describe a black man is racist. Jim Rowen argues that the term has acquired racial significance and Mike Plaisted (who ought to think long and hard before he accuses anyone else of name-calling)suggests that it is the new "n-word."...
See how good we are, turning the other cheek whenever someone other than us gets beaten, stabbed or shot. It can be an indifferent - and murderous - benevolence.
The other idea is that it is silly to call Lee Holloway - a "strong African-American elected official" - a "thug." No one would call a strong white elected official a "thug."
Except they do - George Bush and Dick Cheney, strong leaders both, are often called "thugs." James Widgerson demonstrates that's true for Bush and it's true for Cheney as well. I suspect that there are few politicians that someone somewhere has not called a thug. (Indeed, in about five minutes, I found examples of Jim Sensenbrenner being called "a portly beer house thug" (the writer sort of blew the intended Nazi allusion - the right term is "beer hall"), and WMC's Jim Pugh being accused of "thug-like" behavior.)
In fact - and this is a beautiful thing - none other than Mike Plaisted earlier this year referred to "right-wing thugs like Bill Kristol, Pat Buchanan and Bill Bennett ...." Kristol (or,as the Reddess calls him, "my boyfriend!") is Jewish. Is the term "thug" also anti-Semitic? Or was Mike confused about Bill's race?
Do conservatives ever use the term to refer to people who are not black? Well, in that same few minutes, I found moi using the word to refer to the white Jude cops, Charlie Sykes using it to refer to antiwar protesters who are, at least by stereotype, not black and Patrick McIlheran using it to refer to Vladimir Putin. Brian Fraley gave more examples in a comment to Plaisted's post.
Wednesday, Jul 30 at 9:02 AM Walt wrote ...
Steve, I really enjoy reading a liberal’s reply to a post that finally turns the light on in his head. They are short, less confrontational and more uninteresting. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to prove that point.
Thursday, Jul 24 at 8:11 PM steve wrote ...
there's no "maybe' about it,walt.
Wednesday, Jul 23 at 11:30 AM Walt wrote ...
Kurt, I know I am overly harsh on liberals but I really do believe most are self absorbed anti American socialist. When I posted my comment yesterday after hitting the “submit” button I thought “O! crap, maybe I went too far”. I knew someone like Steve would call me on it the next day but than God sent me that union thug, and his poor wife, as a reminder that although I am overly harsh on liberals some times there was a lot of truth in my original post.
Wednesday, Jul 23 at 9:42 AM Kurt/Elkhorn wrote ...
Walt, Steve is drowning in his own Kool-Aid trough. Naivity is a disability in the liberal world, isn't it? Let's ask Steve.
Wednesday, Jul 23 at 9:09 AM Walt wrote ...
Well Steve, what a coincidence, working in my garden last night I finished and went around to the garage to find attractive woman in a short skirt handing out UNION propaganda on Obama. I told her I was not a Socialist and she could keep her papers on Obama. Bottom line, she said her husband was a union leader and TOLD HER to help him pass this stuff out. Even she could not vote for Obama but as her husband came up to get her I could tell she was under duress. Union thug? you be the judge.
Wednesday, Jul 23 at 6:27 AM He Said - She Said wrote ...
Question? If you see the world through "race colored" glasses, what do you see? Both sides seem to enjoy to be able to bring race into the picture. Very defining.
Wednesday, Jul 23 at 2:26 AM Dan wrote ...
Don't worry about Mike Plaisted He makes false accustions whenever he wants. Little minds just can't think intelligently. Thug is a criminal, no matter what race, religion, sexual orintation or anything else one might consider. A thug maybe Lee Hollway or Michael McGee or Jon Bartlett. It can also describe a gang memember who terrorizes a neighborhood. A thug can be white, brown, black or purple. The left can use the word as the new "N" word, but it just makes them look foolish.
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 6:38 PM steve wrote ...
"It seems to me that most liberal democrats fit into one of those categories." Just keep discrediting yourself, Walt.
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 5:15 PM Paulus wrote ...
Is the extremely liberal Minneapolis Star-Tribune "racist" for calling bands of young troublemakers "thugs" in a editorial on July 17? I think we know the answer to that. You're only considered a "racist" if you don't tow the Left's line. One thing about the Left, they'll use whatever term is convenient at the time for their own end, but turn it into an evil buzz word as soon as it begins to describe their own.
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 3:01 PM Mary wrote ...
It's so ridiculous to cry racism over the word "thug." It's nothing but another lame attempt to smear those on the Right. The Leftists should be careful. As more and more words are deemed racist, then the accusation will lose its power as a weapon to silence voices on the Right. Crying racism is getting to be like crying wolf.
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 2:27 PM Walt wrote ...
Thug = hooligan, hoodlum, lout, robber, assailant, gangster, mugger, brute, goon, ruffian. It seems to me that most liberal democrats fit into one of these categories. Which one of these words come to mind when you when you think of a Union leader, a trial lawyer, the liberal media, liberal politicians and inner city welfare recipients? Now what political party do these people support? Racist??? Not all those in the above list are black but they are all mostly liberal.
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 1:29 PM BigT wrote ...
Does thug replace articulate as the new "code" word?
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 12:16 PM Gil M wrote ...
If the shoe fits? –noun 1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer. 2. (sometimes initial capital letter) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1800–10; < Hindi thag lit., rogue, cheat]
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 12:03 PM Kurt/Elkhorn wrote ...
Amen,Real Debate! Wonder what Al Sharpton thinks of it, too!
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 11:06 AM Real Debate Wisconsin wrote ...
Yet no word from either of them on Jesse Jackson using the n-word?
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 9:59 AM Amy P. wrote ...
Heh. Liberals have used the "racist" card (and others) so many times they've undermined the meaning of those words. Now, when a liberal calls a conservative "racist", it's a badge of honor - it means the liberal has no intelligent argument to make to counter the conservative point of view.
Tuesday, Jul 22 at 9:40 AM Kurt/Elkhorn wrote ...
It seems to me the "T" word has been applied to the likes of Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, Hugo Chavez, Manuel Noriega........need I go on!
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